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Breakfast with former MP mayors (but not Duboc)

Original post made on Mar 18, 2009

Menlo Park residents are invited to attend a discussion over breakfast with current and former Menlo Park City Council members at 8 a.m. Friday (March 20), aimed at "learning from our history" and "improving communications."

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 10:58 AM

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Posted by all for discussion
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 18, 2009 at 1:54 pm

Now the ball is in Duboc's court. She knows about the meeting and is invited. Will she attend and participate or would she rather throw flaming emails around?

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Posted by Lee's A Good Egg
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 18, 2009 at 3:35 pm

How 'bout the "Lee beaters" tone it down a bit, and give this individual some respect. There are no "flaming emails", they are emails that present another side of things. She does it in a respectful manner, let's not forget she was on council at one time, she respects those that continue to do the job. She is concerned about waste, spending, taxes, opportunities that have been lost, and some of the lack of decision making that has occurred lately. She is the one that brought the bloated pensions, and union influence, to light. I guess if you are the type of person that is in favor of more money being spent on pensions, and more union influence, I guess you would not like Lee. I have not always agreed with Lee, but she cares about this community, the tax payers are her #1 priority and she has done a lot for this city.
I really don't think she needs to attend a meeting that will be dominated by individuals that continually call her bad names, make threats and ridicule her without any regard for her well thought out opinions. Stay home Lee, this is a non-event.

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Posted by Unbiased
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 18, 2009 at 5:07 pm

Lee is a good egg. She has volunteered for years in this city, including being the prime player in getting measure T passed to update Burgess Park, and that headline is disrespectful. Your paper is clearly biased.

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Posted by Joanna
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 18, 2009 at 6:49 pm

I second what "Lee's A Good Egg" and "Unbiased" wrote. Lee is looking out for the taxpayer and has always done so in a respectful and civil way.

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Posted by all for discussion
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 18, 2009 at 7:52 pm

Sorry that I used an inflammatory word. I do find it rather interesting that these concerns about benefits could have been addressed when Lee was in a strong majority on the council but did not act. Is it possible that it's easier to ask that of others than of oneself?

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Posted by concerned
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 18, 2009 at 10:51 pm

Certainly Lee has done much for Menlo Park - that's not the issue. It's just not credible that all these other Former Mayors got this invitation in the mail and RSVPd, but Lee is saying that somehow she didn't get it, even though she has lived at the same address for years and years. Because she apparently heard about it otherwise, her "must have gotten lost in the mail" excuse is a little like "the dog ate my homework." It's not becoming of her stature. She should just say so if she doesn't want to go. But it's too bad of she doesn't. Lee has a lot of experience and perspectives that truly should be part of such a discussion. Same goes for Mickie and Nicholas. I hope they attend. With the challenges Menlo Park is facing, we all need to pull together and build bridges. That is surely what the intent was of Mayor Robinson sending iinvitations to EVERYONE, which is commendable. Now we need to see it matched (and perhaps raised). Devotion to the overall community is what everyone is in this for, that includes EVERYONE.

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Posted by I Agree
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 19, 2009 at 12:00 am

I agree with "Concerned" but it's very difficult for someone of Lee's "stature" to walk into the Hornet's Nest with the opinions of this current group, or perhaps the current climate of Menlo Park. Every email she sends out is met with a barrage of ridicule, name calling, untruths and out of line comments. Most of the time, they have nothing to do with the current issues, it's all about "Duboc, Winkler and Jellins, bla, bla, bla, we got screwed on the pool", etc. I don't blame her if she wants to stay home, and I do blame The Almanac for poor, bias reporting.

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Posted by Time to Check The Filter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 19, 2009 at 2:05 am

Hum, looks like the new "filter" to filter out multiple comments from the same couple of people ain't exactly working very good here.

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Posted by true believer
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Mar 19, 2009 at 8:23 am

Lee conveniently didn't receive the invitation and conveniently isn't available. It's so easy to take potshots at the council from afar when in actuality she has only whines, no constructive content, no more than she did when she was on the council.

Don't forget, Joanna/egg/unbiased, that she WAS a member of a majority council for four years, didn't fix any of the problems she now writes about, in fact, exacerbated some of them and created some new ones. There are many good reasons she was so resoundingly voted out of office.

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Posted by Moderate Democrat for Lee
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Mar 19, 2009 at 12:41 pm

I can not believe how far to the left these people who criticize Lee are. If the Democratic party wants to remain viable we need to gravitate back to the center. Jack Kennedy would be ashamed of what is going on in this city.

Lee has always acted in the bests interests of the city and during these tough economic times everyone has to tighten their belts. This includes the City employees. We are drawing down our reserves at an alarming rate and we need to bring city employee pay and benefits in line with other businesses in the Bay Area.

I believe Lee when she says she did not get her mail. Whenever my mail man goes on vacation so does some of my mail. Either I never receve it or receive it weeks later. So lighten up. Don't you have anything better to do?

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Posted by Heyward Robinson
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 19, 2009 at 5:24 pm

Although I normally do not post to (or read) the Almanac's forums, I'm doing so now to request that we, as a community, raise the tenor of discussion on these pages. There are many smart, informed people in our community with much to contribute. Your input is welcome and needed. But these forums too often sink into a back and forth bashing of individuals that is not productive or at times even civil. I think that we can and must do better.

In particular, I hope that you will refrain from additional attacks on Council Member Duboc over the Mayor's Breakfast invitation. In conceiving of this gathering, it was not my intent to create discord or controversy, but rather to tap into the wisdom, knowledge and experience of our former leaders. I am sorry that Ms. Duboc did not receive her invitation. I have sent her a message apologizing for not personally inviting her to tomorrow's breakfast. I hope that she and the other former council members who could not attend this year will be at similar gatherings in the future.

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Posted by OBSERVER
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 19, 2009 at 11:07 pm

I don't think the mayor should be tyring censoring this forum. What he may see as insulting or un-warranted may well not be the case for others. In any case he won't succeed.

Certainly DuBoc gave much time and effort to the city. However, when on council, she certainly contrived with developers and other members of the clan to get them favors (the swimming poll is a prime example).

Now she is on a real tear, and why the tone of this forum should be toned down to her when she is writing such critical nonsense, makes no sense to me.

The Almanac runs the forum... they on occasion censor the comments
if found out of line.

You run for public office, you should expect to have yourself put under the microscope and criticized, sometimes heavily. If you don't like it, get out of the public limelight.

I suspect the personal family situation that she is facing now, is taking all her time and effort in any case.

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Posted by Out Of Line Observer
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Mar 20, 2009 at 9:41 am

I am glad Mayor Robinson jumped into the fray of this type of online bashing. He's absolutely right when he says, "we need to raise the tenor of discussion". Too often things are said about people that are untrue, full of baseless lies and have nothing to do with the topic at hand. The post above mine is a prime example. In this post, there are no examples of "contriving with developers" or "members of the clan" - what clan? The last line in this post was added to REALLY drive a stake into Lee's family life, of which has nothing to do with her work with the city. This sentence was added to create interest, and to start some additional grapevine garbage. As the mayor says, "I hope that you will refrain from additional attacks."

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Posted by true believer
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Mar 20, 2009 at 11:07 am

As long as Lee continues to pump her garbage into our mailboxes, she is going to elicit comments from her target audience. I don't think she needs Mayor Wayward to protect her. If she can't stand the "attacks" (and knowing Lee, she is loving all of this attention) then she can stop the emails! Easy. And when she gets an invitation she doesn't want to accept, she can gracefully decline rather than making a stink over "missing" mail.

Lee isn't a bad person. But she is easily manipulated and she wants people to like her. That's a dangerous combination for someone in public office. And a good reason to keep her on the sidelines where she can merely annoy people.

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Posted by Sad State of Affairs
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 20, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Once again, another posting, another bashing. Maybe one day "True Believer", you'll have something constructive to say about people that may present a differing point of view. You have offered nothing to these blogs, just ridicule and some sick type of psychoanalysis, of which you have no training. Please stop.

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Posted by unofficial postman
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm

I live close by Lee. While I do not share her point of view and find severe inaccuracies in her emails, I do want to echo the earlier statements. She does not deserved to be bashed. Heyward is correct that the tone of any discussion should be constructive, respectful and civil, focusing on the issues and not the personalities.

As far as the missing invite, I know that the regular mailman(George) Lee and I share has been out due to an injury. Since George's absence the mail delivery has been a little unreliable. I have had to deliver the misdelivered mail to neighbors on other streets, including hers, for the last few months. So based on my experience, I would not be surprised if the invite was truly lost.

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