Post a New Topic
Original post made
on Jul 21, 2010
While I usually have respect for our fire fighters, this seems like a case of trying to squeeze out just a few more dollars to add to their already high pay checks. It sounds as if Mr. Wurdinger has a personal ax to grind with management. I'll bet there is another side to this story; I'll bet the union was given an answer they didn't agree with and the solution was to file a law suit.
Maybe he (and others) needs an attitude adjustment and be appreciative for a decent job given the times and that many other fire departments having to make concessions.
This is simply another example of a superb group of public employees who suffer from incredibly bad union leadership - the MPFPD union, the Palo Alto firefighters' union and the Menlo Park unions.
This horrible leadership is taking their unions down the road to ruin and is destroying the trust and respect which their members have earned.
I agree with Peter,
I don't think the members of the union could possibly have picked a worst time for this very bad argument. It shows a complete disconnect from what is taking place in the real world.
Peter: What is a "home station"? The assigned work location or their residence? Seems to me that "personal protective and Medical kits" would be an item they would take with them when not on duty.
Me thinks they are bitting they hand that feeds the.
Steve asks:"Seems to me that "personal protective and Medical kits" would be an item they would take with them when not on duty."
Precisely correct. How many people show up for work and expect their employer to give them paid time to go get their required uniform. The firefighters can and should keep their equipment with them.
Given the tenor of today's financial conditions, this seems petty. Having some knowledge of the fire industry, the above analysis is accurate. Personal safety equipment can be taken home or stored in one's car.
The only winners in this situation will be the attorneys. All this does is diminish the respect the community would have for firefighters. They should be grateful for their jobs and remember they are public servants.
Kudos to the folks who have held the line during our economic situation.
I suspect there might be a hidden agenda here that goes beyond getting paid to go pick up equipment. A couple of things stated in the original article probably could use some additional investigating.
• Why would the IAFF offer to litigate this issue pro bono?
• What is the impact (and was it precedent setting) for the
Fire District to switch from salary to hourly pay last September?
My suspicion is that buried in the hourly/salary issue is the reason for the IAFF's level of interest, and should be the issue we taxpayers would benefit most from knowing more about.
Some employees recently sued their employer because they had employer-provided cell phones and Blackberrys and they sometimes responded to messages during their off hours. They asserted that they should be paid for those hours when they were "available" to their employers.
The court found for the employees. While these employees were trying to figure out how much their off time would be worth (full time pay, half time pay, etc.), the employers decided on an even simpler solution - that they would no longer provide them with paid cell phones or Blackberrys.
Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.
Post a comment
Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online.
Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information
We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.
Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?
- Atherton: Lindenwood
- Atherton: Lloyden Park
- Atherton: other
- Atherton: West Atherton
- Atherton: West of Alameda
- Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
- Menlo Park: Belle Haven
- Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
- Menlo Park: Downtown
- Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
- Menlo Park: Felton Gables
- Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
- Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
- Menlo Park: other
- Menlo Park: Park Forest
- Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
- Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
- Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
- Menlo Park: Stanford Weekend Acres
- Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
- Menlo Park: The Willows
- Menlo Park: University Heights
- Portola Valley: Brookside Park
- Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
- Portola Valley: Ladera
- Portola Valley: Los Trancos Woods/Vista Verde
- Portola Valley: other
- Portola Valley: Portola Valley Ranch
- Portola Valley: Westridge
- Portola Valley: Woodside Highlands
- Woodside: Emerald Hills
- Woodside: Family Farm/Hidden Valley
- Woodside: Kings Mountain/Skyline
- Woodside: Mountain Home Road
- Woodside: other
- Woodside: Skywood/Skylonda
- Woodside: Woodside Glens
- Woodside: Woodside Heights
- Woodside: Woodside Hills
- Belle Haven Elementary
- Corte Madera School
- Encinal School
- Hillview Middle School
- James Flood Magnet School
- La Entrada School
- Las Lomitas School
- Laurel School
- Menlo-Atherton High School
- Oak Knoll School
- Ormondale School
- Willow Oaks Elementary
- Woodside High School
- Woodside School
- another community
Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.
Are you taking a Gap Year?
By John Raftrey and Lori McCormick | 8 comments | 2,010 views
Magical Bridge Playground
By Cheryl Bac | 4 comments | 679 views
Palo Alto's Cafe Pro Bono reopens after fire
By Elena Kadvany | 0 comments | 667 views
Follow-up to a Love Script
By Chandrama Anderson | 0 comments | 604 views
Ate My Way Through China
By Laura Stec | 6 comments | 351 views
Home & Real Estate
Shop Menlo Park
Send News Tips
Circulation & Delivery
Palo Alto Online
Mountain View Voice
© 2015 The Almanac
All rights reserved.