Town Square

Post a New Topic

Council begrudgingly approves legal settlement involving El Camino project

Original post made on Jul 26, 2010

(This is an expanded version of a previously posted article.)

They were peeved and frustrated in doing so, but Menlo Park City Council members on July 20 gritted their teeth and unanimously supported a settlement agreement with Concerned Citizens of Menlo Park, a group of anonymous members who in November 2009 sued the city and would-be developers of the property at 1300 El Camino Real on environmental review issues.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, July 26, 2010, 5:18 PM

Comments (9)

 +   Like this comment
Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jul 26, 2010 at 7:38 pm

Mr. Draeger wouldn't have to be concerned with another market moving into town if they actually provided quality that is equal to their prices. They used to, but not any more. They are now just over priced. When I want the quality (and value) that Draegers used to provide I go to Andronicos. But, that is usually what seems to happen when the kids take over the business from the parents that built it. They get greedy. Draegers quality has been sliding for a number of years. Too bad they would go to the sleazy lengths they obviously did to prevent Whole Foods from coming to town. Can't wait to see what they and Beltramos do against the move-in of Bevmo.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by another view
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jul 27, 2010 at 8:13 am

What has really been missed here is that this council, which has so strongly supported green house gas emission reductions and standards, would settle when the basis of the lawsuit was the project doesn't meet greenhouse gas emission reductions the City so wants.

The supporters of the Green movement, led by Fergusson and Robinson on council, with Gail Slocum leading the charge in the background, have completely left the movement down with this settlement.

Of course, this kind of vote is totally consistent with their support for the Bohannon project. They want the Green Movement supporters to think they have voted for a really Green project, This is simply not the case. How can it be, when the location near 101, demands transportation via autos, which will produce 70% of the pollution.

Just think about all of this...


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jul 27, 2010 at 10:52 am

Another view states:"Just think about all of this..." when reflecting on the disparate ways that some of the council members vote on different projects. This is called pragmatism - just going with the winds and not having a firm and consistent position on important issues.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Local shopper
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jul 27, 2010 at 8:53 pm

Do we really need another national chain to further degrade the unique character of menlo park? Go for it voters and don't whine when you can't tell if you are in Menlo Park or any other generic town in the country. And by the way, why pay to be here when any other city will do?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Just wait
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Jul 27, 2010 at 9:23 pm

EIR lawsuits are not about the environment. They're just about being another way to get what you want. Just wait until the Downtown Old-Timers Non-Resident Club sues to stop the (lame, watered-down, non-progressive) downtown vision plan.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Long Time Resident
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jul 28, 2010 at 2:59 pm

Just Wait makes a good point. Environmental concerns are an excuse to stop projects for other reasons. The settlement didn't include any environmental revisions, just a smaller store, no quick alcohol sales and money for the plaintiffs' attorneys.

These lawsuits are frivolous and our general plan sets the stage for them. It was written more than 15 years ago by a no growth coalition headed by Gail Slocum. It needs to be updated to prevent these lawsuits.

Example: Remove level of service traffic standards at the intersections so traffic can't be used as a justification for a suit.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jul 28, 2010 at 3:51 pm

Long Time Resident states:"our general plan sets the stage for them. It was written more than 15 years"

A General Plan that is that old does not comply with State Law period.

Here are excerpts from the State guidance on General Plans:
"If the board or council finds itself making frequent
piecemeal amendments, major defects may exist in the
general plan. In these cases, the jurisdiction should consider
a plan update or a major plan revision to address
these issues." Sound familiar?

"the housing element is subject to detailed statutory requirements
regarding its content and must be updated every five
years." When did MP last update the housing element?

"Wells (1989) 209 Cal.App.3d 1005,
exemplifies the type of action a court may take after it
invalidates a general plan. After holding Indian Well's
general plan invalid for failure to achieve internal consistency
and failure to address various statutorily required
issues in the housing element, the trial court
ordered the city to bring its general plan into compliance
with state law and imposed a moratorium. The
court order prevented the city from granting building
permits and discretionary land use approvals such as
subdivision maps, rezoning, and variances until it updated
its general plan." MP might be tempting some law suits.

"Performing periodic comprehensive reviews
and updates of the general plan can help to identify
internal inconsistencies so that they may be corrected." How true.

"The general plan update process is an opportunity to build community connections by bringing people together to work for a better future. It is also an opportunity to educate community members about their community and build a sense of pride." Sounds like just what is needed.

"Keep in mind that while an area or community plan may provide greater
detail to policies affecting development in a defined area, adopting one or a series of such plans does not substitute for regular updates to the general plan. Many of the mandatory general plan issues are most effectively addressed on a jurisdiction-wide basis that ties together the policies of the individual area or community plans." Sounds like something worth doing.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by General Plan too Specific?
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jul 28, 2010 at 5:15 pm

It's long been our State Law, and Judicial interpretation of Legislative Intent, as embodied in countless case law decisions.
Just google "Government Code 65302"
Read paragraphs a) and b) slowly and carefully. Note the use of the term "Standards" and "integrated and internally consistent" set of General Plan elements.
Every municipality must adopt Standards, not only for population density and intensity of land use, but standards for a circulation system that is correlated with the land use element.
That is why MP has LOS intersection standards and a roadway classification system.
This is designed to prevent runaway growth that outstrips infrastructure constraints, like overburdened roadways.
Ever tried driving on ECR at Middle at Rush Hour?
Get the picture?
Now move on to our overcrowded local schools and see why additional housing, which generates more auto trips, and overcrowded classrooms
is a net negative for MP.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by GPS2
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jul 28, 2010 at 9:24 pm

Now, think about senior housing and a mid level Residence Inn type lodging on the vacant ECR Stanford owned car dealerships
No school impact, limited peak ECR traffic impact since they may drive occasionally in their Prius or Tesla "economy" model, frees up housing for younger folks as seniors vacate their digs in MP.
Ready for more, how's about a Ohlone Tribe casino!
What a Cha Ching!! for MP!
We got eager Granny Keno girls right next door in the senior complex.
What a trip! And they all shop not only at 24 hour Safeway, but can walk to our downtown merchants
What was that thing about "Thinking out of the box"
Sorry, doesn't seem to apply to our current "Visioning" process.


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Cho's, beloved dim sum spot, to reopen in Los Altos
By Elena Kadvany | 8 comments | 5,719 views

Why I Became Active in Palo Alto Forward
By Steve Levy | 12 comments | 2,205 views

Early Decision Blues
By John Raftrey and Lori McCormick | 0 comments | 1,730 views

What Are Menlo Park’s Priorities?
By Erin Glanville | 17 comments | 875 views

Water Torture
By Paul Bendix | 1 comment | 386 views