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Tri-city lawsuit filed against high-speed rail

Original post made on Oct 7, 2010

Palo Alto, Atherton and Menlo Park launched a fresh lawsuit Thursday against the California High-Speed Rail Authority, claiming the state agency violated state laws when it approved a comprehensive study evaluating the Bay Area-to-Central Valley segment of the 800-mile high-speed rail system.

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Posted by R.Gordon
a resident of another community
on Oct 7, 2010 at 1:26 pm

Nobody seems to have considered how invaluable the HSR would be for the entire PENINSULA AREA if and when the monstrous EARTHQUAKE, which is 30 years overdue,hits here.
Since we are sitting on the very top of the San Andreas Fault, and we are rocked to the point that the SAN BRUNO gas explosion blew up and killed but a few, but decimated 57 houses, it is a wonder why you do not think of WANTING a means to get OUT OF HERE on BULLET TRAINS that will evacuate the area quickly. If tracks got bent, they could be fixed quickly. Regular highways will be at a standstill. You will be torched in an inferno and there will only be Stanford to accomodate the dying, the burned...If San Bruno had only ONE gas line blow, imagine how many OLDER and worse off lines there are along this corridor.
You are playing with your lives to protect your property. Only those with helicopters and evacuation RICH people will get out in the worse case scenario.
People are not as dumb as they are stubborn. Besides needing the jobs to build the HSR, we need IT in order to help those trapped in this HELLHOLE if and WHEN it happens.
THINK about it.

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Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 7, 2010 at 3:51 pm

Elevated HSR will be desimated in a large earthquake and it won't be a simple fix.

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Posted by R.Gordon
a resident of another community
on Oct 8, 2010 at 8:02 am

In that case, we build them on ground using EMINENT DOMAIN.
Lives are more important than houses. Ask the people who were thrown out of their homes during the prohibition era when THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE was built....THOUSANDS.
EDITOR: This is NOT "off subject"

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Posted by full disclosure
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 8, 2010 at 12:27 pm

the original lawsuit succeeded in the loss of $35 million in funding because the e.i.r. wasn't certified on time. The only reason they
aren't paying the costs of the lawsuits is because they prevailed on a couple of points. The state should make them pay back all the money lost and spent due to the frivolous lawsuits they'll keep filing just to delay and eventually kill the project. It isn't about high speed rail. Menlo Park has already turned down millions of dollars to separate tracks from traffic. That money went to other cities as will the funding for modernization of Caltrain which would
protect our health from diesel fumes and the trauma of train horn blasts.

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Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 8, 2010 at 2:05 pm

Mr. Gordon:

the only way they can build HSR on the ground is to put it IN the ground. That costs a lot more and the authority has said they won't do it that way because of the cost. So that leaves elevated tracks becuase of the requirement for grade seperation. So, pretty much kills HSR because as long as it is elevated the cities along the corridor will continue to sue to stop it.

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Posted by R.Gordon
a resident of another community
on Oct 9, 2010 at 10:00 am

WRONG. It CAN and should go directly through ON ground as planned.
This is a matter of taking care of CALIFORNIANS, not rich home owners.
It will still go through and now that earthquakes have been considered as a definite PLUS to build ON LAND and tear down what must be torn down, it is IMPERATIVE that we have a route to evacuate and save lives as well as employ HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
Other states are already planning HSR even though we were the first state to implement the possibility, and our President has already allocated 3.8 BILLION dollars towards the need of HSR.
Road repairs across the country and CALIFORNIA are determined to cost into the TRILLIONS.Get into the 21st Century where the majority of college students believe the HSR MUST be built.

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Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 9, 2010 at 1:34 pm

Menlo Voter is a registered user.

The sky isn't falling Mr. Gordon. Please relax. You are also wrong about there being grade seperation required for HSR. Do a little research you will find you are wrong.

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Posted by Gern Blanston
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Oct 10, 2010 at 9:41 pm

R. Gordon, this notion you've shared here and elsewhere, that were a major earthquake to rock the Bay Area, causing massive structural damage, loss of life, explosions, and what have you, and all we'd need do is straighten a little track to safely evacuate some large percentage of the population via HSR, is childish at best, and only slightly more plausible than receiving aid from aliens in the event of such a catastrophe. You apparently forget about electrical infrastructure and transmission along with caternary poles and wires which would power the trains, to say nothing of the structural integrity of rail bridges and grade separations along the right-of-way. Have you seen photos of the damage caused to railroad tracks after the 1906 quake, even 50 miles from San Francisco? HSR has its uses but in the Bay Area, at least initially, it will merely serve to line the pockets of the contractors who build it.


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