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City may remove bike-lane parking on Laurel Street

Original post made on Oct 2, 2013

Some parents pick up their children from school using bikes; others use cars. This has launched a quest by the city of Menlo Park to figure out how to safely allow both — a quest for the moment centered on Nativity School on Laurel Street, but one that could lead to the elimination of parking in bike lanes along other city streets.

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Posted by Elaine
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Oct 2, 2013 at 10:55 am

There was a pedestrian fatality just a block away from the site last Friday. Laurel Street is really congested during the morning and afternoon commutes, so I can see why Elementary Schools are worried, especially with young children. Why don't city officials look at widening Laurel St. to allow both bicycles and parking? It doesn't have to be one or the other...


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of another community
on Oct 2, 2013 at 11:02 am

The safety of the children attending Nativity School should be the first priority here! Eliminating more parking on Laurel Street will create a safety hazard. I urge the city to reconsider this proposal.


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Oct 2, 2013 at 11:36 am

Just get off of your bikes & walk them along the sidewalk. People have safely done that for decades. It was one of the first safety lessons we received for cycling. We did it frequently in school areas when growing up. Perhaps there can be volunteer traffic controllers to help with this.


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Posted by parent
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 2, 2013 at 11:53 am

Car parking in a bike lane is incredibly dangerous, especially during school commute hours. Banning car parking in bike lanes is a no brainer. Why is this taking so long???


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Oct 2, 2013 at 11:59 am

I smell something off here. This smacks of the NIMBYism that Palo Alto has been experiencing with the negativity toward Castilleja school. Since Menlo has been becoming the new Palo Alto, in terms of disingenuous snobbishness, this shouldn't be a surprise. Nativity has been around for decades, and suddenly this is a problem. Right. I've had little problem driving & walking on Laurel in this area during school pick up. Where is the outrage over the the public school kids parking in the private school's lot - & they're parking in the Nativity Church lot.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Oct 2, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Nativity parents may not realize that street parking is seriously limited near Encinal and Laurel schools. The Felton Gables neighborhood managed to get the city to prohibit parents from parking on their streets while dropping off or picking up kids. Atherton has always prohibited parking by Laurel School on Edge. So no one is picking on them. Parking restrictions are nothing new.

With Laurel and Encinal parking restrictions, the issue was not primarily safety, more a function of neighbor complaints.

With Nativity, there is a safety issue. Dozens of kids use Laurel to get to Encinal from other neighborhoods. The Nativity parents are competing for parking space on Laurel, and often ignore the bicyclists completely. I would not let my own kids bike for that reason, but driving back and forth to Encinal I've seen many near-collisions.

I don't understand why the school is complaining about M-A students parking in its lot. It's a hike from Nativity to M-A, so I doubt the cars are from students, but why not just require parking permits as so many schools do, including M-A? Give permits to families, just as the public elementary schools do. If someone parks all day without a permit, then have the car towed. Any offenders will figure it out real fast. Don't compromise the safety of our kids because you can't take the simple steps required to free up your lot!


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Oct 2, 2013 at 12:36 pm

Uh huh. So how come cyclists aren't getting off of their bikes & walking them on the sidewalks if they're concerned for their safety? That's a very easy fix.


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Posted by CCB
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Oct 2, 2013 at 2:44 pm

Hmmm, I'll answer your question: there aren't sidewalks on the northbound side of Laurel north of Nativity. There's a bike lane. Here's what happens when cars park in a bike lane for drop-off situations:

1) They are there temporarily and are constantly pulling in and out.
2) They are often in a rush, and open their doors without regard for cyclists who may be riding by, which in turn leads to
3) Cyclists needing to make a terrible choice between riding in the middle of the road to avoid getting "doored" -- and thereby angering cars that can't easily/safely pass them--or else riding in the "door zone" and risking a serious accident.

This isn't about NIMBYism. A ton of parents drive to Oak Knoll to drop off their kids and they, too, have to follow very strict rules about where they can and can't park. It's not a perfect system, but it protects kids biking and walking to school--which we should be encouraging for all kinds of reasons.


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Posted by JMM
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 2, 2013 at 3:33 pm

Yes, Laurel is a safe route to Encinal, but the kids aren't traveling on the eastern side of Laurel during the times they want to restrict parking. That side of the road is already parking restricted in the morning when the kids are commuting to school. In the afternoon the kids should be going home in the opposite direction. I think this action is most likely the result of an adult biker who was riding to Encinal to pick up his/her kid who got irked that he/she had to slow down at that location in order to merge.


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Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 2, 2013 at 8:12 pm

CCB:

you're right, this isn't about NIMBYism. It's about people too stupid or self absorbed to look in their side view mirror before throwing their door open. It's simple. Look in your side view mirror, if a bicycle is approaching, wait until the bike passes. The way to deal with this, at least partially, is education. Remind people they need to look before they open their door. Novel concept, I know. It might work, but we're fighting the self importance of those that live in this town. After all, no one is more important, nor is anyone's transit more important, than the driver's need to open his or her door whenever the hell they please. Never mind. Outlawing parking in the bike lane or eliminating parking there altogether is probably the sure fire way to go.


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on Oct 2, 2013 at 9:11 pm

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