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Great Lakes Ice Cover nearing an All Time Record

Original post made by Brian S on Mar 5, 2014

The ice cover on the Great Lakes is now the greatest in 35 years, and nearing an all-time record.

According to an analysis by NOAA's Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory (NOAA/GLERL), ice covered 91 percent of the Great Lakes on March 4, 2014. In records dating to 1973, only February 1979 (94.7 percent peak) had a greater ice coverage.

Only a small area of southern Lake Michigan and much of western and central Lake Ontario have significant ice-free stretches, according to the March 4 NOAA/GLERL analysis.

About 95 percent of Lake Superior, just under 96 percent of Lake Huron, 95 percent of Lake Erie, and almost 92 percent of Lake Michigan is ice-covered.

The ice coverage has set an All-Time March record, topping March ice cover in the previous two standard-bearing years, 1979 and 1994:

March 5, 1979: 75.98 percent
March 4, 1994: 85.78 percent

Comments (13)

Posted by Snow Trolling for Koch profit, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 5, 2014 at 11:14 am

Frosty now posts weather reports with a nom de plume.

NOT Climate news, but local weather. In past threads, she negleccted to post about the heat wave in Alaska in January, droughts and heat waves in Australia, etc..

The term for tin foil hat deniers posting weather reports is: Snow Troll.

Snow Trolling occurred in these previous threads, where the Snow Troll completely ignores reason and fact, disappears when asked to defend ridiculous claims, then reappears a couple days later to post more weather reports.

Duluth Breaks All Time Record for Consecutive Days Below Zero (no climate news)Web Link

Frosty, Brian et al will never address actual CLIMATE DATA:



Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013


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January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.




Posted by Brian S, a resident of another community
on Mar 5, 2014 at 8:05 pm

Global Warming has hit the United States with a vengeance. Records broken are:

Tuesday, March 4:

Lake Charles, La.: High of 35 broke the March record of 37 set March 1, 1962.
Lafayette, La.: High of 36 broke the March record of 37 set March 6, 1989.
Beaumont-Port Arthur, Texas: High of 37 tied the March record set March 5, 1989.

Monday, March 3:

Green Bay, Wis., reached 24 below zero Monday, marking its coldest temperature of this winter, 2nd-coldest March temperature on record, and its coldest low on any day since Feb. 4, 1996.
La Crosse, Wis., reached 21 below zero Monday, also marking its coldest temperature of this very cold winter season.
Longview, Texas: High of 26 broke the March record of 30 set March 12, 1948.
Little Rock, Ark.: High of 27 broke the March record of 30 set March 19, 1965; March 5, 1960; and March 9, 1932.
Tyler, Texas: High of 26 tied the March record set March 5, 1989.
College Station, Texas: High of 32 tied the March record set March 5, 1989.

Sunday, March 2:

Kansas City: High of 5 broke the March record of 11 set March 4, 1978.
St. Joseph, Mo.: High of 4 broke the March record of 9 set March 4, 1960.
Salina, Kan.: High of 9 broke the March record of 14 set March 4, 1960.
Rochester, Minn.: High of 3 below zero broke the March record of 0 set March 10, 1948.
Dubuque, Iowa: High of 3 broke the March record of 6 set March 16, 1900 and March 6, 1899.
Concordia, Kan.: High of 5 broke the March record of 8 set March 10 and 11, 1948.
Waterloo, Iowa: High of 1 below zero broke the March record of 1 set March 1, 1962.
Norfolk, Neb.: High of 0 broke the March record of 2 set March 10, 1948.
Eau Claire, Wis.: High of 1 broke the March record of 3 set March 2, 1943.
Sioux City, Iowa: High of 2 broke the March record of 3 set March 10, 1948.
Omaha, Neb.: High of 4 broke the March record of 5 set March 10, 1948 and March 18, 1923.
Lincoln, Neb.: High of 5 broke the March record of 6 set March 10, 1948 and March 18, 1923.
Moline, Ill. (Quad Cities): High of 7 broke the March record of 9 set March 6, 1899.
Dodge City, Kan.: High of 5 broke the March record of 6 set March 13, 1880.
Topeka, Kan.: High of 8 broke the March record of 9 set March 4, 1960.
Rockford, Ill.: High of 9 broke the March record of 10 set March 8, 1932.
Billings, Mont.: High of 4 below zero tied the March record set March 6 and 8, 1951.
Des Moines, Iowa: High of 2 tied the March record set March 10, 1948.
La Crosse, Wis.: High of 3 tied the March record set March 6, 1899.

Saturday, March 1:

Grand Forks, N.D.: High of 11 below zero broke the March record of -6 set March 23, 1974.
International Falls, Minn.: High of 9 below zero broke the March record of -7 set March 23, 1974.
Fargo, N.D.: High of 8 below zero broke the March record of -7 set March 10, 1948.

But of course once the AGW scientists make their data adjustments March could prove to be quite balmy indeed!


Posted by Snow Trolling for Koch profit, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 5, 2014 at 8:19 pm

Poor Brian, completely unable to tell the differnce between indiviual wwather events and global climate.

So sad.

Maybe his 3rd grader will lend him a dictionary.

Brian - what do you think of this?


The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998


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Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013


- and -


January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.




Or we can let Brian wait for the next cold spell somewhere.

Talk to your third grader, Brian, she will give you a homework assignment - reading a dictionary!


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm

Menlo Voter is a registered user.

Stop feeding the troll


Posted by Brian S, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2014 at 8:22 am

A study published by the science journal "Remote Sensing" highlights NASA satellite data which shows that the atmosphere has been shedding heat long before United Nations computer models predicted. And the study indicates that far less future global warming will occur than global warming zealots have claimed.

In Forbes' analysis "New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism," author James Taylor shows that the study really does blow a gaping hole in alarmists' theories.

"When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a 'huge discrepancy' between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are," wrote Taylor.


Posted by Science from a lawyer, a resident of Woodside: Woodside Glens
on Mar 8, 2014 at 9:17 am

Denier James Taylor is funded by Heartland, which is funded by the Koch Brothers and Exxon, along with the coal industry to make garbage up so they can continue making billions as we burn more coal and oil.

His "study" is a joke.

Note that BRIAN calls him an author, not a climatologist or even a scientist.

James Taylor has NEVER published a paper in a peer reviewed journal.

Why? James Taylor is A LAWYER FUNDED BY THE KOCH BROTHERS via their Heartland front group.


One typical "study" has a disclaimer like this: "To address this, we reconstruct the frames of one group of experts who have not received much attention in previous research and yet play a central role in understanding industry responses – professional experts in petroleum and related industries." Yeah, let's poll the oil industry and call it FACT! What a bunch of bozos.

His favorite idiocy? "Without a doubt, the warming of the past 100 years has been a welcome respite from a long and deadly Little Ice Age. The possibility that humans may have contributed to the recent warming does not make it any less welcome."

wtf? What a moron! Let's warm the planet and raise the sea levels!!

Brian: why don't you address the points made by the other poster?

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"Brian - what do you think of this?


The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998


- and -


Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013


- and -


January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record."



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I first liked the name "snow troll" for deniers. Fits the fools who post denier lies well, except it makes them seem fuzzy and cute, when they are in fact either disturbed, uneducated or liars.


Posted by James Taylor, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 8, 2014 at 9:59 am

James Taylor is fo' sure a climate expert!!!!!!!

Look at his credentials - "I've seen fire, and I've seen rain...."


Posted by James Vernon Taylor, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2014 at 12:39 pm

with apologies to Mr Taylor

There is a OLD DENIER, he lives on the FRINGE.
His FANTASY and RIGHT WING WEBSITE are his only companions.
He works in FALSEHOODS and he sleeps in the FOX ECHO CHAMBER, waiting for EXXON LIES, his pastures to change.
And as the moon rises he sits by his fire, thinking about COAL SMOKESTACKS and glasses of beer.

And closing his eyes as the GLACIERS MELT, he POSTS out a FABLE which is soft but it's clear, as if maybe someone UNDERWATER could hear...

Goodnight you to BEACH FRONT COMMUNITIES, ARISE OH SEA LEVELS and sink sweet baby James.


Posted by Brian S, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2014 at 4:51 pm

The globe warms and cools on a historic 1,500 year cycle. Of course we only have 4,500 years of documented history to go on. Man made global warming? With a span of about 8 degrees man may contribute an additional .05 degree to that. We won't burn and become hell that's for sure. And NOT worth trillions of dollars in expense. So much more to say, read the science for your selves not the politics


Posted by Snow Trolling for Koch profit, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 9, 2014 at 11:06 am

"We won't burn and become hell that's for sure."

Rising sea levels with hundreds of millions of refuges?

Look at what Sandy did to NYC, and add on a rising sea level to that! What will the cost be to the Bay Area with a rising sea? California?

Ask Central Valley farmers (look at todays SF Chronicle) about drought, and the thought of changing climate.

Profitably switching to green, renewable sources of energy is working for Germany (over a million homes under solar panels.) Communist China has made far bigger investments in solar than the US.

We're America - we can do better than Germany and China.

I agree with the above, and Brians statement - "read the science for your selves not the politics" Tun off the Faux News network.


"Brian - what do you think of this?


The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998


- and -


Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013
Earth had its fourth-warmest year on record in 2013


- and -


January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record.
January 2014 was the 4th warmest January on record."



Posted by There are alternativesl, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Mar 9, 2014 at 4:42 pm

Obama has sunk Billions into green energy which produces less than 1% of our total renewable energy, primarily wind and solar. If Congress had any sense it would mandate that for each $1 allocated to renewable energy sources it would mandate an equal allocation to both nuclear energy and research towards reducing carbon dioxide emissions from coal fired plants.

Coal produces 40% of our country's energy. Yes there is a problem with pollutants and our Government should be spending billion for scientific research to reduce the pollution of coal fired energy plants.

That is what really makes sense.


Posted by Beijing Smog, a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Mar 10, 2014 at 11:17 pm

No such thing as Clean Coal.... its a marketing department fantasy. Look at the air in Beijing.

Coal also polluted that West Virginia river that is the drinking water for 300,3000 people.

Have to invest in renewables.


Posted by There are alternatives, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Mar 11, 2014 at 4:22 pm

Fortunately, the U.S. Department of Energy Office of Fossil Energy is doing some research on capturing pollutants from coal burning power plants

Web Link

The problem is that only 9.3 of all electricity produced in this country comes from renewable sources and of that 9.3% only 1.4% comes from wind and only .19% comes from solar.

Meanwhile coal is producing over 40% of all electricity in the U.S. That is more than 25 times more electricity production than wind and solar combined!

The answer is that we need to continue to fund research in wind and solar so that they can produce greater percentages of electricity; but we also need to ramp up research spending on capturing pollutants from coal powered electricity plants.

I sincerely hope that the day will come when we produce all our electricity from non polluting renewable energy sources but in the meantime we also need to concentrate on making coal burning power plants cleaner.


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