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Save Menlo claims to have needed initiative signatures

Original post made by old timer, Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park, on May 10, 2014

The SJ Mercury in an article:

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has Mike Lanza, Save Menlo spokesman, quoted as saying:

Lanza said the residents, organized under the name Save Menlo, expect to announce on Monday that they have secured 2,000-plus signatures to qualify their initiative for the Nov. 4 ballot -- more than the 1,780 needed.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on May 10, 2014 at 8:21 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Actually the requirement is for 1780 signatures of Menlo Park residents who are also registered voters.


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Posted by old timer
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on May 10, 2014 at 9:39 pm

Mr Carpenter:

Do you really believe that Save Menlo doesn't know the 1780 number refers to "registered voters"? Do you think they don't know the signatures must be sent to the City and which then sends them on to the County for verification?


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Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on May 10, 2014 at 9:52 pm

It will be interesting to see how many of the signatures are actually confirmed.


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Posted by Mike Keenly
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on May 10, 2014 at 9:56 pm

It's not difficult to guess that Save Menlo has likely verified all the signatures they got are for valid registered voters in Menlo Park before submitting them to the City. Gathering 10% more guarantees that even if a few get thrown out, they'll have easily cleared the 1,780 hurdle.


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Posted by I_know_a_bit
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on May 11, 2014 at 3:16 am

As Mike Keenly pens above:

"It's not difficult to guess that Save Menlo has likely verified all the signatures they got are for valid registered voters in Menlo Park before submitting them to the City. Gathering 10% more guarantees that even if a few get thrown out, they'll have easily cleared the 1,780 hurdle"

The signature have been verified. No gathering effort these days would go without verifying their signatures --- that would be utterly stupid. Databases are available and verification is not all that big a task.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on May 11, 2014 at 7:16 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"The signature have been verified." No, the names and addresses may have been verified but the signatures have not been verified - that can only be done by the county officials who have access to the signatures used when each voter registered. The public data bases do not, for obvious reasons, contain signatures.

I have no reason to believe that they do not have enough signatures but that has yet to be certified.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on May 12, 2014 at 2:45 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Well they have now submitted their signatures.

Here is how the submitted signatures will be examined by the County Registrar:

" (b) If the statistical sampling shows that the number of valid
signatures is within 95 to 110 percent of the number of signatures of
qualified voters needed to declare the petition sufficient, the
elections official shall, within 60 days from the date of the filing
of the petition, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays, examine
and verify each signature filed."

All of the signatures on any sheet containing a sampled signature which is invalid will be set aside. Unless the remaining signature sheets total more than 1958 signatures (110% of 1780) then every single submitted signature will have to be verified as that of a Menlo Park resident who is a registered voter. If that total is less than 1780 then " no action shall be taken on the petition. However, the failure to secure sufficient signatures shall not preclude the filing later of AN ENTIRELY NEW PETITION to the same effect."

It will be interesting to see how the signature counting goes.


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