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We are all FergusonÖStop Military Creep

Original post made by Michael G. Stogner, another community, on Aug 14, 2014

We must stop Military Creep to all of our Police Departments and Sheriff Office. Law Enforcement by Peace Officers is extremely important to all of us in San Mateo County. Redwood City Police Department just announced their new Military vehicle to the fleet, San Mateo County Sheriff's Office has 2 of these vehicles.

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Let get back on track with Peace Officers in San Mateo County

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Posted by Thank you Michael
a resident of Atherton: other
on Aug 14, 2014 at 3:45 pm

Stogner brought this up in his campaign and he, and Rand Paul, are 100% right. Police officers are supposed to protect and serve, NOT function as a domestic army that the founders of this nation expressly prohibited. Redwood City and SMC should have turned down these vehicles. Stogner once again shows he's mindful of the issues and not afraid to speak his mind, even when it's not the circle the wagon, mom, and apple pie stuff that may win SMC elections, but upon thoughtful examination is. It in the best interests of SMC residents.


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Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2014 at 5:33 pm

Michael G. Stogner is a registered user.

If you give them RIOT gear they will find a RIOT to use it on like last night in Ferguson. They fired Tear gas at 2 separate locations No riots just 3 News people with 3 tripods, and than one man standing in the street with a large video camera on his shoulder, all by himself no other people around and they shot canisters right at him.

Also Peace Officer wear identification name plates/badges.

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Just say NO Thank You to the Military gifts.


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Posted by San Mateo County resident
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2014 at 5:56 pm

Attorney and San Mateo Councilmember David Lim said he was shocked that San Mateo County Sheriff Munks ordered spy drones from the Feds. Shocking was an understatement - I only learned about this from Mayor Lim's website. Web Link


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Posted by Stogner hit the nail on the head
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Aug 14, 2014 at 7:22 pm

A police force dispelling tear gas on JOURNALISTS and putting a JOURNALIST in handcuffs when committing no crime is flat out 100% inexcusable, period, end of story. It's just flat-out wrong. Blood was shed more than 250 years ago over these issues, as "Thank you Michael" points out in his or her own way. (As an aside, the Posse Comitaus Act, which prohibits the U.S. armed forces from being deployed domestically, was passed after reconstruction, but there is significant evidence the so-called "fathers of our country" were of like mind and it certainly seems like an end run around it to turn a police department into an army).

That's probably one of the many compelling reasons why the Governor of Missouri took the unprecedented step of removing Ferguson police from the situation today. (Showing far more leadership than the tepid comments of so-called liberal President Obama in his statement; for once the French got it right and ridiculed him for being on vacation on this one).

But let me elaborate on why Michael Stogner really hit the nail on the head. Is every individual Ferguson cop part of the militia bad? No. Aside from the one who killed the kid walking on the street, and quite likely the chief, they're following their orders which is what they were trained to do.

The problem is training them this way in the first place, which ties into Michael's first sentence. This community should work to ensure this can never happen in San Mateo County. A sheriff acquiring drones and military vehicles –†even if free – is not a positive for this community. And it's not free. It will have come at a grave cost to everyone's liberties if they ever are deployed inappropriately, and as we have seen from Ferguson (and the NSA debacles), that's all too easy to occur and certainly not just a problem non law-abiding citizens will face.


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Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2014 at 8:15 pm

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Amazing difference from last night to tonight in Ferguson, Best of Health to everyone out there who just wants to show their support for Michael Brown's R.I.P. family. Same crowds same streets.
CNN did a piece on why the Police Officer who shot about 7 times and killed an unarmed 18 year old young man should have his name protected from being made public. The argument was his safety of course, I would like to point out that recently just 72 days ago San Mateo County Sheriff Deputy Menh Treiu shot and killed 18 year old Yanira Serrano a resident of MidPen Housing Moonridge Complex in Half Moon Bay in response to the family calling 911 for medical assistance. To this day nothing has been reported that he has experienced any negative results regarding his safety. As a matter of fact I have not heard anyone say anything bad about him, they just want to know what the Hell happened.

Great Correction in Ferguson we can all learn from this.


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Posted by George Carlin
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2014 at 9:23 pm

I don't believe there's any problem in this country that Americans, when they roll up their sleeves, can't completely ignore. -- George Carlin (RIP)

Even more true for people around this county.


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Posted by Stogner hit the nail on the head
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Aug 14, 2014 at 9:51 pm

Some factual correction in my own post: it was St. Louis County police, not Ferguson police, that showed up in tanks and military garb. They were called in by the Ferguson mayor. My comments about their strategies, and chief, apply to the county-level force, not the Ferguson. Let's face it, it would happen the exact same way in any city here in San Mateo County terms of the county providing the bulk of the policing when something gets big (e.g., presidential visits).

Thank you to Michael Stogner for at least trying to shed light on these issues. Sadly, I think George Carlin is probably right.


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Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Aug 15, 2014 at 7:22 am

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The Police Officer involved has been identified as Darren Wilson.


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Posted by fair and balanced
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Aug 15, 2014 at 8:30 am

Where are the so called patriots from Cliven Bundy's ranch?

The ones who brought their guns to fight guvmint overreach?

Why haven't the open carry crowd shown up in Ferguson?

Where is Sean Hannity? He interviewed Bundy half a dozen times.

Where is fair and balanced Fox?

Why is Al Jazeera the ones getting gassed? Where is Fox?


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Posted by fair and balanced
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Aug 15, 2014 at 10:16 am

Mo' Guns. The good peeps in Ferguson clearly need their 2nd amendment remidies with Mo' Guns. Open Carry. Hoist their AK-47s.

Fight tyranny with force, just like our Great Tea Baggers say all the time:


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Posted by fair and balanced
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 am

Thomas Jefferson's credo that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots." Kostric has plenty of company. Rep. Michele Bachmann agreed, declaring "I want people in Missouri armed and dangerous on this issue." Glenn Beck warned that "violence will come" and with it, "rivers of blood." As Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association (NRA) explained how he would keep rogue cops in line:

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

A chorus of voices has echoed LaPierre's call for the good guys in the African-American community to take arms against a sea of troubles, and, by opposing, end them. Gun Appreciation Day founder Larry Wardlamented:

"I think Martin Luther King, Jr. would agree with me if he were alive today that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history."

Tea party enthusiast and one-time Congressional candidate Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher concurred with Ward's diagnosis. "Well, blacks weren't allowed to own guns in the south, that's a historical fact as well," he argued about the fates of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, "So, it would seem that the argument would apply there as well." Radio host Rush Limbaugh put the needless tragedy in Ferguson in its full historical context:

"If a lot of African-Americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, you think they would have needed Selma? If John Lewis, who says he was beat upside the head, if John Lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge?"


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Posted by fair and balanced
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Aug 15, 2014 at 10:22 am

Funny.... thats the kind of thing all those Great Tea Partiers say about white peeps ans having Mo' Guns!

Look up those quotes with the name of those Great Tea Partiers.

Fair and balanced.


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Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Aug 18, 2014 at 9:38 am

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Easy to get the equipment
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Posted by easy peasy
a resident of another community
on Aug 18, 2014 at 10:12 am

Easy to get, easy for big government types to abuse. Say good bye to the 1st amendment, and once it falls, the 2nd, and the rest.


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Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Aug 18, 2014 at 3:36 pm

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Letter to editor
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Posted by fair and balanced
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Aug 19, 2014 at 10:27 am

"CAIRO - Egypt on Tuesday urged U.S. authorities to exercise restraint in dealing with racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri - echoing language Washington used to caution Egypt as it cracked down on Islamist protesters last year. [...]
The Egyptian Foreign Ministry's statement Tuesday on the unrest in Ferguson read similarly to one issued by the U.S. in July 2013, when the White House "urged security forces to exercise maximum restraint and caution" in dealing with demonstrations by Morsi supporters. The ministry added it was "closely following the escalation of protests" in Ferguson, unleashed by the fatal shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown by a white police officer on Aug. 9."

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Posted by fair and balanced
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Aug 19, 2014 at 10:36 am

Egypt. Ferguson. Shall we compare and contrast...

Ferguson just hired a PR team to deal with this. The PR team - take a look and see if you can identify the theme Web Link

"We are providing short-term assistance to the City of Ferguson's media relations dept. in fielding media inquiries during this tragic time. — @CommonGroundPR"

Their tweet on behalf of the mayor:

"The city of Ferguson is a model for the region." -- Mayor of #Ferguson a few mins ago on MSNBC. Ok! — @jbendery

Egypt, or model city Ferguson. Tough choice!


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Posted by CamoVille
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Aug 20, 2014 at 12:31 am

Why do cops wear CAMO? In the CITY????

Unless they want to play soldier............


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Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Aug 20, 2014 at 4:43 pm

Michael G. Stogner is a registered user.

This officer who raised and aimed his weapon and refused to identify himself, is now on admin leave.

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Posted by JulieToo
a resident of another community
on Aug 20, 2014 at 10:11 pm

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Michael G Stogner & all Posts in Agreement With His:

In my opinion, when a democracy (or a democratic republic) tell journalists to go away, when they arrest them, when they give them "designated areas" only in which they can operate, we are in trouble.

I will not identify the journalist because I am not certain I have the quote right. But a journalist on TV live coverage Tuesday night said something like this...when the journalists began to fear that the police would arrest them:

"Well, I don't know how they can arrest us? For what charge? Unless they will try to charge us with conspiracy to attempt journalism!".

There may be alot of truth in that statement.

They wanted the journalists to leave the area..,"for their own safety" I ask you, when Anderson Cooper stood knee-deep in water in the middle of a hurricane, was there a police presence there, asking him to leave the area "for his own safety"?

EVERYONE'S First Amendment Freedoms have been trampled in Furgeson, MO

I am hoping that this is not becoming a trend in America.

Maybe our cell phone video capabilities will keep us free, so that all of us can document the truth. They can't tell us all to go home, can they? Can they keep us prisoners in our own homes by legislating curfews? Divide and conquer?

What has been happening in Furgeson is serious. And it is scary.


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Posted by JulieToo
a resident of another community
on Aug 20, 2014 at 11:30 pm

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Correction in my post:

CORRECT Spelling: Ferguson, Missouri.

NOT: Furgeson


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