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Police calls: Burglars take guns from Atherton home

Original post made on May 30, 2012

Crime reports from the Atherton and Menlo Park police departments and the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 10:58 AM

Comments (13)

Posted by what kind of guns?, a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on May 30, 2012 at 11:29 am

What kind of guns? How many? Was ammunition also stolen? How much risk is the public at right now? Why was this theft not publicized for 3 weeks?


Posted by Minoosh, a resident of Atherton: other
on May 31, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Such absurd questions. Guns are legal to own and are part of an olympic sport. They are easy to acquire and ammunition is easier. If you believe anyone with a gun would misuse it, you must also believe every woman will become a prostitute because they have all the equipment.
There is an under reported drug epedemic causing addicts to steal to support their habit. An armed society is a polite one. Be nice and you have no worries. But if don't like guns and I see you being mugged, I will respect your right to not use my concealed weapon to interfere.


Posted by Ansel, a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on May 31, 2012 at 1:51 pm

"There is an under reported drug epedemic causing addicts to steal to support their habit."

Epidemic? Any evidence?

Recent crime statistics to the contrary. Even if crime was up, given this economy, how are you assigning the cause to drug use?

Again, any evidence?


Posted by Minoosh, a resident of Atherton: other
on May 31, 2012 at 2:07 pm

If you ever speak with any SMCO deputy sheriff, any SM county drug enforcement task force personnel(why need a task force if no problem exists?) or read the news papers, a second grader would be informed that crack, crank and other stimulants are on the rise. Ever heard of unreported crime? Go look and interview those living under the ovepasses under 101 and other places, the gaunt, skinny people mostly on bicycles or in the shelters. Go visit the jails. What do you think causes gang members to not hold down jobs, DRUG TRAFFICKING. To whom to they sell their product?
Have you notice they cleaned out that 'jungle' of people living at 5 points intersection? Have you noticed the squatters living in motorhomes as you pass by on El Camino Real and side streets? Wake up, you are missing a great life.


Posted by Ansel, a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on May 31, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Of course drugs are a problem in this country. As is the 'drug war'. And the prison industrial complex, along with guard unions. the immense amount of money spent on prosecution and jailing versus recovery.

Want to take it further afield, or just back up your first claim with evidence? I submit you cannot, your only response is rhetoric, fables, storytelling, and anecdotes. Oh yeah, and fear-mongering.

Facts, being stubborn things, tell a different story.

Minosh: "There is an under reported drug epedemic causing addicts to steal to support their habit."

Facts: "In 2009, San Mateo County's violent crime was among the lowest in the state at 276.1 violent crimes per 100,000 residents. The violent crime rate for the state of California by comparison was 453.6 per 100,000 residents."

San Mateo County theft crimes, 2005 & 2009:
* Prop crimes - 2005: 9,744 ............. 2009: 8,677
* Burglary - 2005: 3,335 ................ 2009: 3,072
* AutoTheft - 2005: 2,732 .............. 2009: 1,988

Minoosh does write one valid sentence: "Wake up, you are missing a great life."

I agree.


Posted by Minoosh, a resident of Atherton: other
on May 31, 2012 at 5:32 pm

The are lies, darn lies then statistics. The relevant story was about the burglars are moving into your neighborhood. Contatct the real victims above and see if they are interested in those dated statistics. Accurate reporting lowers property values, hence under-reporting. Drug addiction is the thieve's the motivator. Speak with real professionals for the facts. Believe it or not.


Posted by Ansel, a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on May 31, 2012 at 6:07 pm

"There is an under reported drug epedemic causing addicts to steal to support their habit."

You've nothing to back it up, all evidence to the contrary?

"The relevant story was about the burglars "

You're the one who moved it into the theater of the absurd - in your words: everyone should be armed, to bums "under the ovepasses", the gaunt, skinny people mostly on bicycles or in the shelters, gang members not holding down jobs, DRUG TRAFFICKING,even that 'jungle' of people living at 5 points intersection, squatters, etc..

But your winner? Clearly: "If you believe anyone with a gun would misuse it, you must also believe every woman will become a prostitute because they have all the equipment."

Where did that come from?


Posted by Minoosh, a resident of Atherton: other
on May 31, 2012 at 7:12 pm

Join a book club. Play some checkers with friends but don't ask for education. But real burglars are breaking into homes. Showing less are doing so 3 year ago than 7 year ago isn't relevant. Today, there are people in your community stealing from others. Their motive is drug addiction. Asking for proof only provides positive evidence someone looking in from the outside. Simply, guns do not make a community at risk. People with nothing left to lose, or lost everything, taking from others is the hazard.
Solution: don't blame guns, fix your neighbors. There are no acceptable statistics for the problem ignored by the elite or ignorant.


Posted by Ansel, a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on May 31, 2012 at 7:56 pm

"Showing less are doing so 3 year ago than 7 year ago isn't relevant."

Yes, it is, unless you have FACTS that are more relevant.

So show evidence that proves your fear-mongering claims.


Posted by minoosh, a resident of Atherton: other
on May 31, 2012 at 11:12 pm

Simple facts, buddy. 11 burglaries in 11 days. Reread the story. Are there hopes a burglar will steal declining Facebook stock, next? Make it easy, keep the doors unlocked.


Posted by Ansel, a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jun 1, 2012 at 10:06 am

There ya go, Minooosh finally tried to back up his claim with numbers... yay, good job! Wrong, but good try.

To recap, his claim: "There is an under reported drug epidemic causing addicts to steal to support their habit"

All statistical evidence shows his claim without merit, so he based it on reports from the last couple weeks - "11 burglaries in 11 days" including "theft of cardigan sweater by elderly Asian woman" and a scooter stolen by the pond. Technically, the article above only lists 3 burglaries, not 11.

Doesn't explain, in times of an extreme economy, that it is evidence of an "under reported drug epedemic causing addicts to steal" or is in any way related, but at least Minooh tried.

Apparently, 11 (really 3) burglaries is reason to invoke "(homeless) under the ovepasses, the gaunt, skinny people mostly on bicycles or in the shelters, gang members not holding down jobs, DRUG TRAFFICKING,even that 'jungle' of people living at 5 points intersection, squatters, etc.." and defend gun proliferation with this amazing statement:

"If you believe anyone with a gun would misuse it, you must also believe every woman will become a prostitute because they have all the equipment."

All generated because the first poster wanted to know a few things like "What kind of guns? How many? Was ammunition also stolen? How much risk is the public at right now? Why was this theft not publicized for 3 weeks?"

Fair questions, to most. To Minooosh - "Such absurd questions"

"Burglary report: theft of miscellaneous guns, Holbrook Lane" begets "Such absurd questions"

Perhaps. Unless you live near Holbrook, or recognize there really isn't any such thing as "miscellaneous guns".

May they, and the perpetrator, be found.

Minoosh - care to address this one? "If you believe anyone with a gun would misuse it, you must also believe every woman will become a prostitute because they have all the equipment."


Posted by Minoosh, a resident of Atherton: other
on Jun 1, 2012 at 12:49 pm

The quote that has the previous writer befuddled was respnding to "How much risk is the public at right now?", implies the theft of guns suddenly makes the public at increased risk. Absurd. But surely people have more positive things to do than have this string be so consuming.


Posted by Janet, a resident of Atherton: other
on Jun 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Q: "What kind of guns? How many? Was ammunition also stolen? How much risk is the public at right now? Why was this theft not publicized for 3 weeks?"

A: "Such absurd questions"

2nd poster Q: "care to address this one? "If you believe anyone with a gun would misuse it, you must also believe every woman will become a prostitute because they have all the equipment."

A: "implies the theft of guns suddenly makes the public at increased risk. Absurd."

Rather interesting. How does the theft of guns by criminals NOT put the public at increased risk?

imo, thought the 1st poster brought up fair questions; that the 2nd poster's responses were indeed overboard, especially the analogy involving all women having the 'equipment' to be prostitutes.

Quite the leap. Quite offensive.


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