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Menlo College Continues Losing Ways! Why?

Original post made by Nancy, Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks, on Oct 4, 2009

Dear President Haight,

As a mother of three children and working a full time job I look forward to coming to my Son's games, this is the second year by the way, and I ventured out to an away game and attend all the home games at Menlo. We parents pay quite a bit of money to have our children play ball and attend Menlo College, we could have encouraged our children to attend other schools but we were swayed by the true spirit of friendship with Coach K and the dedication he stood for, but now that has changed with his departure. I want to point out I have no ill feelings towards your new coaches, however, there is great dissention amongst the parents and your players about your transferred in player from Stanford, he plays quarterback.

From what we are talking about in the stands is this young man transferring in from Palo Alto by way of his family, who by the way are very wealthy, and come here for only a semester to have his position purchased for by a sizable donation to our program, we welcome any donation and are grateful for it, however not at the expense of our kids losing our games because this young man couldn't make it as a quarterback at Stanford. President Haight, you have two choices, you can sit back and ignore this problem we are having with this present coaching staff or address this problem to all the parents and players at the game. The first game was pretty vocal about people asking for the previous quarterback who led our team the past two seasons, (this is our second), now that young man is no longer playing as a quarterback and no one wants to address this issue, why? We are very concerned and we as parents have a right to know President Haight. During this last game things with the parents began to get very vocal as anyone who knows a little bit about the game can understand the transfer cannot play at that position and it is your duty to find out what is going on with your football team. Your coaches also cost our team dearly, what is it that they are trying to demonstrate by receiving an infraction that allowed the other team to score?

Furthermore, we also understand this young man is transferring back to Stanford to graduate once football season comes to an end. I have a question, as does your football team who is uncomfortable in asking of your coaches and all the parents: if this young man is only here to play one semester and transfer back after the season, where on earth is the loyalty to our program or this team? Secondly, since there is no loyalty to our program how do you think our players feel about him? Is Menlo College not good enough for him to graduate from? If he is going to transfer back to Stanford then why not transfer back right away so we can at least have the opportunity to win a few more games this season.

My Son has this year left and two more and I'm afraid that myself and a number of other parents who very dissatisfied for what is happening to our program will be making changes to transfer to other schools that will be fair and impartial. We expected a whole lot more from our football program and coaches this year but instead it is worse than it was and we don't want our children wasting anymore time where favoritism abounds to the highest bidder.

I apologize for the anonymity of my letter President Haight but I don't want my Son blacklisted by the coaches since there are players already on that list, you should investigate this if I am not believed.

Kind regards,

A concerned parent



TURNOVERS TOO MUCH IN 31-7 LOSS TO NO. 8 LINFIELD


Oct 03, 2009

Menlo vs. No. 8 Linfield - Game Stats

Menlo Season Stats

ATHERTON, Calif. - It was going to take a huge effort for Menlo College to come away from Saturday's game versus No. 8 Linfield with a victory. Unfortunately for the Oaks, the biggest plays were made by the visitors in a 31-7 Northwest Conference loss at Connor Field.

After Menlo tied the score at 7 early in the second quarter, the Wildcats scored 24 consecutive points to end the game despite giving the Oaks plenty of chances to get a surprise victory. Menlo is now 0-1 in NWC play and 1-4 overall while Linfield is 1-0 and 4-0.

It took no time at all for Linfield to assert itself and establish a lead, forcing the Oaks offense into a quick three-and-out before marching 72 yards in nine plays for a touchdown. Quarterback Aaron Boehme weaved his way through the final 38 yards and Menlo's defense on a scramble for the score. The Wildcats led 7-0 less than five minutes into the game.

The Oaks offense punted again before the defense came up with its first big play, a Steven Lopes interception of a tipped Boehme pass. On the very next play Menlo gave the ball right back when quarterback Nick Ruhl and running back Shaun Souza couldn't connect on a handoff.

Backed up against its own redzone, Menlo defense stood firm and forced a field goal attempt that Maika Kunioka bounced off the crossbar from 45 yards. The Oaks still trailed by just one score.

The teams traded punts before Menlo's offense struck for its only points. A pair of short runs around a 7-yard completion from Ruhl to wide receiver Brad Wilkinson moved the ball to the Linfield 30 yard line. Running back Payton Bell then took a handoff, broke through a tackle at the line of scrimmage, swept around to the right sideline while breaking another pair of tackles and reached into the endzone for a score. Eddie De Leon added the extra point to tie the game with 13 minutes, nine seconds left in the half.

What happened on the Wildcats ensuing offensive possession killed Menlo's renewed vigor and, ultimately, its chances.

Facing a third-and-29 from its own 18 following an offensive pass interference penalty, Boehme dropped a screen pass to running back Kevin Abbott who ran nearly untouched down the sideline 82 yards for a touchdown. Instead of having possession of the ball with the score tied, the Oaks trailed 14-7 with more than 11 minutes left in the second quarter.

The Oaks followed with a 14-play, 67-yard drive fueled by a pair of 15-yard completions from Ruhl to Kenny Cavness. James Bassett caught two passes for 19 yards on the drive, but a fake field goal attempt was foiled on a fourth down play from the Wildcats 12 yard line.

Menlo's forced a Linfield punt moments later that was blocked by Boo Molinary and set up its offense at the Wildcats 17. After three plays netted three yards, the Oaks went for it on fourth down and Ruhl's pass to Lance Walkup was dropped.

It was 14-7 in the third quarter when the Oaks gave away any chance they had at an upset. Ruhl was intercepted one play after a missed field goal by Kunioka then lost a fumble after Kunioka's third missed field goal.

This time the Wildcats weren't so kind to Menlo's tiring defense. Linfield hit paydirt when Boehme lofted a 21-yard scoring pass to Trevor Patterson in the front corner of the endzone. It was 21-7 Linfield with six minutes, 19 second left in the third quarter.

Taylor Avritt ran for a 12-yard score late in the quarter and Kunioka made a 29-yard field goal midway through the fourth for the final margin.

Menlo was outgained 367 to 159 and turned the ball over four times to Linfield's one interception. The Oaks defense deserved better once again as it limited the Wildcats powerful offense to its lowest point total and yardage output of the season.

Brett Klee led Menlo with seven tackles, including one for a loss, Beau Bussani had six tackles, and Chris Tosello had five tackles with one for a loss.

Bell ran the ball 11 times for 46 yards while Ruhl completed 14-of-28 passes for 105 yards. Cavness caught five passes for 36 yards while Walkup caught four for 28.

Boehme led Linfield with 205 yards through the air, though he completed just 14-of-36 passes. Abbott had 63 yards rushing on 18 carries with Patterson catching five balls for 57 yards.

Menlo plays at Puget Sound next Saturday at 1 p.m. in Tacoma, Wash.

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Posted by just a player
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 4, 2009 at 4:13 pm

I can say that a lot of players on the team do feel this way, but don't want to bring it up.


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Posted by Micky
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 4, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Transfer your kid now lady, find a real school for him to play at, this team couldn't beat itself in the mirror!


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Posted by Chad
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 4, 2009 at 4:18 pm

Lol come on lady money makes the world go round! Whats this kids family name?


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Posted by Jenine
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Oct 4, 2009 at 4:37 pm

Someone explain to me how teamates allow this kid to even play knowing he is transferring back! Really now!


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Posted by Lori
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 4, 2009 at 5:23 pm

I agree and thank Nancy for her honesty. I am also a parent of a Menlo Football player and attend every home game. The stands appear to be filled with parents of the players only.
To sit in the stands and watch the defensive line so exhausted it could hardly walk onto the field and the coaches ignore it.As for the quarterback his talent is yet to be seen especially when you watch him delay throwing, ignoring open running backs and most of all not tucking the ball when out of the pocket. Even I know that and I don't play football!
It appears the coaches have their favorites and everyone else just fills the needed roster. There is much talent on the team, but their only activity during game time is to get a drink of water. A team is only as good as its leaders ( the coaches) and yesterday showed how much leadership there is. The players on the sidelines are ignored and most of all not respected by the coaching staff. Sitting in the stands listening to the parents I have to agree with their comments. I have heard many of the players will not return next year because their morale and spirit for the game has been broken.
I hope President Haight will look at these comments and make some changes.


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Posted by Oak Alum
a resident of another community
on Oct 4, 2009 at 6:02 pm

I played at Menlo College for 3 years and it is not the first time a player has played 1 season and left. Players have come in for 1 semester, handed a starting job, and after the season ended, nobody saw them anymore. The program has many flaws and there is a reason why there are so many new players every year. It's because students transfer out after being lied to and not being rewarded for what they have earned. With the new players every year, I think it has shown that it is not them, it is the coaching staff. Year in and year out, losing is what surrounds that program. And so what do we do last off season, hire a new head coach from the same staff...What did you expect the results would be? The problem has never been talent...


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Posted by disgruntled alum
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 4, 2009 at 6:35 pm

The fact that people are surprised at why menlo keeps losing and keeps pulling "ringer" players out of no where only means they are ignorant to the whole situation and plague that is Menlo Football. Yes 3 seasons ago menlo had two All Americans, but you shouldn't be surprised to find out that neither of them graduated with a degree from menlo and one was only there for one semester and attended one class......yet was still "eligible". It is incredible how big of disaster the football program is at menlo. The staff simply doesn't give the players a chance to succeed, for a plethora of different reasons. If I was to name all of the things that have happened at menlo that were not in line with NCAA rules then I would be writing a novel. I am not sure what the administration at menlo were thinking with hiring a coach from the former staff that a posted nothing but atrocious and embarrassing losing seasons. You need to change the culture and the guy you hired only made it worse. Menlo has more than enough money, but this new "donation" from this transfer's family smells very very fishy and just had bad ethics written all over it. Coming from a business school that does not bode too well for alums out in the world. I have no reason to believe that the donation was meant for anything more than pure charity, and I am grateful to any contributor to Menlo College, but the new president needs to take a more active role in managing the athletic sector of the college. The athletic face of menlo is its most public face and I believe the president should realize this and how bad management of a football team, the schools biggest sport,can change the perception of an entire school; whether the perception be good or bad. But from looking just at the football teams record over the past years (0-10,2-8,4-6....etc) the perception is not good. It is a shame for the players because it's not their fault, and its a shame they have to suffer and be driven off a cliff every season with out any glimmer of hope or chance.


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Posted by Jay
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Oct 4, 2009 at 6:37 pm

[portion deleted.] I think your team should just take a knee and get the presidents attention.


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Posted by Tony
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 4, 2009 at 6:42 pm

I agree!!!!! Take a knee at the beginning of the game and everyone stay there!!! Great suggestion, what will they do?? Come on OAKS!! Do any of you have any brass underneath?


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Posted by Alum
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 4, 2009 at 6:50 pm

How is Menlo suppose to take a knee when the reason that sparked this article would be the one doing it..Of course the quarterback doesn't think anything is wrong, he is the one getting special treatment. And what do you mean by any brass underneath? The Menlo football program is on the bridge about being folded...If the players did some sort of rebel act, it would make a decision pretty easy to seal the deal and just get rid of the program, they know that. And one more thing...It's mid-season, and it is not just the head coach who is the problem, it is the whole staff. Therefore, what if they stand up, who is going to replace him?? It will become the Menlo cycle once again, replacing a problem with a problem


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Posted by Concerned Parent
a resident of another community
on Oct 4, 2009 at 8:05 pm

How sad the school would play with these kids' lives like this. We should have conducted intense research before allowing our kids to come play here.

May I please ask a favor of someone here who would be willing to share the truth, who is on the black list and how can we be sure, if this is true I'm pulling my Son off this team and going to scream to high heaven to the media. Here we thought the program was legit.

My o my, we are heart broken.


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Posted by Sean Lent
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 4, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Yo Forget the noise of all these haters
Players will play and coaches will coach
TO all you haters out there keep your mouths shut and lets get a win. We need to win if we want post season.
Yeah Baby


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Posted by wowed
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 4, 2009 at 10:48 pm

lets see a article just grilling the coaches after a team is now 1-4
parents just finding another excuse for their kids not playing?
is this H.S. football now?


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Posted by was a fan
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 4, 2009 at 11:45 pm

you say to the haters, keep our mouths shut. you obviously are not very close to the players or in the tight nit groups of families that are in trusting the coaches with our young men to not only teach the game of football at a higher level but to also teach them to have a higher moral compass and that is an injustice not only to the college of menlo but to young men and there families . you have players that will not speak there mind in fear of being black balled?
to read that a young man is on a list what is that about? you have a quarterback that started as a freshman started as a sophomore & get recognized by the conference coaches. but he has yet to play at the position. that is why i think people are talking in the stands. could not possibly get worse.


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Posted by Disgusted
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:09 am

I Am a parent of a former Oaks Football player and believe something has to be done with the Program, The lying and The Empty Promises is unbelievable, Ive been around Football my Entire life and have never seen even in in the Youth football programs the lack of open Competition, Starting Jobs are promised in the off season so a kid who works hard to get stronger and faster in the off season shows up in August and finds on Day 1 there is No open competition & the sad part is even on a 12yr old Pop Warner team kids are not stupid and reconize favortism so imagine Coaches trying to Fool College Kids.

The Current head coach is over his head having never been a head coach, against Humboldt when Menlo was awarded a choice of 1) Safety & getting the ball or 2) taking the result of the play (Int at midfield) but no 2 points He wanted to take #2 which started a sideline argurment between coaches until they finally decided to accept the No Brainer #1

Hazel has been getting serious heat from his play calling and player favortism, I KNOW that in camp His BOY was hurt and could not particiapate in contact drills but when Menlo did 7 on 7 passing Drills Hazels BOY was only kid to get reps and when Other QB asked Hazel for Reps in 7 on 7 they where Told Hazels Boy needed ALL the reps because he is hurt and cant get Reps durng scrimmage, Im sorry if your hurt you fall behind plain and simple.
Hazel had no qualifications to be a coordinator and I just laugh when he tries to run a offense system he knows instead of running a offense that suits the players he has.

When a Football Program runs off Coaches like Coach Wright & Coach Dishman is unbelievable, Dishman left last year a week before the season because he wanted Best players who earned starting jobs on his Defense but was over ruled by Coach K who wanted His GUYS starting, when a NFL Player who is a pro bowler and curently coaching in NFL leaves in disgust tells you whats goin on !!

Menlo's record the past 4 years speaks for itself and as the old sports saying goes "ATTIDUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP"

Menlo Really had 3 choices when Coach K left 1) Hire a entire new Coaching Staff with Fresh Blood & Energy 2) Keep same staff, promtoe from within and go 2 & 8 again or 3) Fold the Program

Menlo Football is Oppenents BYE week when they play Menlo !!!!!!


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Posted by it is what it is
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:46 am

The fact of the matter is plain and simple. Losing creates feelings like this and Menlo has been losing for basically this whole century. If you've been around Menlo and you've been around other schools in the conference, you'll realize one GLARING fact. Menlo College does not have the facilities or resources to field a competitive football team. You can't win with a weight room that not only has inadequate weights, but is not maintained and is unsafe. You can't win with two full-time coaches--especially when the two full-time coaches are over-extended with other duties in the athletic department and school in general. With two full-time coaches, who is to hold the players accountable for off-season workouts? The players themselves, right? Well, it all sounds good and grand but these are 18-24 year old college students and need someone to hold them accountable, the old "police yourselves" motto--just doesn't cut it. Articles like this are a double-edged sword. On one hand, the voice of the parents needs to be heard by the public, because let's face it Menlo College's administration shuts themselves away and they hear only what they want to hear. On the other hand, I feel bad for the team's players. Its not their fault that the administration has acted irresponsibly, or that their coaches may or may not have acted improperly and irresponsibly. All they know is they have busted their ass through summer camp and now a rough 5-week season and they have people attacking their program from the outside. I hope they stick together and remember that it is not their fault. Menlo College, Tim Haight, Jim Kelly, Jasmin Lambie-Simpson, YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS. The football program is just part of the problem. Tim Haight and those previously mentioned, you have managed to ruin everything Menlo was before you arrived, a tight-knit community where students knew the professors and staff as friends. To Tim Haight, I've got a news flash for you, you don't run a college the way you run a business, so keep publishing all your articles on the economy via the school's website, its not like anyone cares anyways. You have managed to run-off professors and staff that actually cared about Menlo whether you fired them or they left on their own accord, its because your administration is a joke. You have changed the very premise that Menlo was built on and anyone who is an alumni is well aware that Menlo College is dropping faster than a ton of bricks from the sky. So congrats Tim, Jim, Yasmin, you've set a great example of how to NOT run a college.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:16 am

Is there a conference violation going on here?


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Posted by Violation
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:30 am

Congratulations Tim!

Menlo College has proved that it truly is the Silicon Valley Business School. Good job demonstrating to your students that there is only thing makes good business - cold, hard, cash.

Go Tim!


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Posted by a relieved Oaks fan
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:55 am

Wow, what a relief..FINALLY someone has said something, and unfortunetly the coaches refuse to here anything in person or phone or email so this is the best yet! It is so nerve wrecking to see those young MEN playing the game they know best and moved miles away from family and friends to attend Menlo College and have their freedom of speech robbed from them for one family's dream of their son/grandson's title of "starting QB"!! Maybe they should start teaching him that money can't buy you happiness or start paying the opposing team to stop intercepting the passes! Menlo's players are dedicated students not only for the sport but for the education to carry with them after graduation. Now tell me coaches, why should those boys put their winning effort for coaches that don't do the same for them? How much more money is being put in your paychecks for accepting such a selfish "donation"? And can you please tell #9 that #2 is NOT the only one open to receive a pass????


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Posted by Choices
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:59 am

My Son has played Football since he was 8yrs old and loves the game but the Menlo College Football Program (he worked hard enough to be named a team captian) took away his love for the game and he decided to focus on his Education and not Play football anymore and very happy with his decision, he definently misses playing football but is very content about getting away from the Drama & Lying that is more part of the Menlo College Football Program then actually playing the game.


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Posted by like a cop car
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:00 am

Everyone is all over Menlo about losing, but I think there is a little more that needs to be thought about here. I'm no expert on NCAA rules but I think they might find it a little interesting that this kid came to Menlo just to play football with the intention of transferring back to Stanford. Let's be realistic, the kid is smart, would you rather have a Menlo degree or a Stanford degree? Selfish, but smart. Hey Timmy Haight, I guess that's one big black eye for "the Silicon Valley's business school." Back to the NCAA though, I don't think that Menlo has too much to worry about in terms of an investigation or probe into its athletics, because honestly, the NCAA has bigger fish to fry than investigating a perennial D3 loser.


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Posted by A current player
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:42 am

I have very limited respect for opinions of people who aren't at practice monday-friday and only show up on Saturday and want to crucify the program, coaches, and players. If you want to claim right or wrong of the program then you should come to every practice everyday and then give your opinion on Saturday. I understand your frustration with the outcomes of the games, as a current player its not like we're not frustrated with the outcomes as well. I would just like all of you to keep in mind that although I'm sure your frustrated with the coaching decisions that this letter is not going to help the team this year. This letter is going to do nothing but separate and divide this team. If you didn't like the coaching decision or the playing time of your kid there are other ways to handle that issue that doesn't tear down this team. Also who plays is choice of the coaching staff and not the players, It's not going to help the team by viciously attacking a player who starts over another player because the coaching staff believes he's better than that player.
Also fun fact, The starting QB has thrown for almost as many yards this season, in only 5 games, as last years starting QB threw in 10 games.
GO OAKS!

A current player.


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Posted by Another Current Player
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:11 pm

I wish I wasnt Inolved in the Day to Day because its a LOT Worse then what is being tossed around , too many good players have been run off in last few years that its impossiable to build a program, luckily there is only 5 weeks left and I will be another former player with eligibility left !!


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Posted by smart choice
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:18 pm

yes bro! i'm a current player also leaving menlo, i've got two seasons left and aint spending them here unless we get new coaches. i love this school and my teachers, especially the girls :D
lets get rid of adam hazel and his band of merry men!


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Posted by P O Mom
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:21 pm

Thank you Nancy for your post. I commend you. You are OUR VOICE. I have been holding my breathe and biting my tongue at every game so my son does not get BLACK BALLED. Because coach Guidici's UNWRITTEN POLICY is to keep your comments to yourself or you are OFF THE TEAM. Our boys are threatened on a daily basis. What coach can't take the HEAT? This guy has control issues and someone needs to address it.

And where is the ATHLETIC


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Posted by nothing will be done
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:27 pm

Well i know for a fact that last years QB has nothing to do with the original letter but as i read i can pretty much sum up that the reaction to it may affect #10's respect from the team....#10 has never shown any disrespect to the decision of the coaches, it is the fans and those who pay for the education of their child at Menlo that needed to voice their oppinion about the surprising decision the coaches made this year. Angel is there to play, no matter where the coaches put him...he knows his game!


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Posted by P O mom
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Thank you Nancy for your post. I commend you. I have been to games this season where I had to hold my breathe and bite my tongue just so my son does not get blacked balled. That is coach Guidici's UNWRITTEN POLICY. You make a comment or voice your opinion then you are OFF THE TEAM. TRUTH????? This guy has control issues and should be addressed. And Hazel is right behind him. You might as well bring coach "K" back at least we had loyalty and fairness.
Where is the athletic Director? [portion deleted.] TRYING TO GET MORE MONEY?? WHAT A JOKE!
Yes our team team and school are being run like a business NO LOYALTY NEEDED, JUST MIONEY.

It is not bitterness but hard facts that the fans see what is going on. DO SOMETHING HAIGHT!


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Posted by Jim
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:52 pm

I was trying to remember your QB from last year, what happened to him? My son is in pop warner and we go to the games since we live a few blocks from the school, you guys are not all that bad, but I question the play calling at times this season. Glad to see your team supports it's previous QB over the Stanford kid, I have to agree with all of you, it doesn't demonstrate any loyalty whatsoever. That's my 2 cents worth.


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Posted by Wilbur
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:04 pm

Will someone please explain what this black list is all about and the kid from Stanford?


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Posted by really?
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Last year all I heard from the stands was calls to can Kaanapu and now that the team is losing and the QB isn't the savior he's thought to be you all want him back? Let's keep it real, there's always been shady dealings going on behind the scenes at Menlo. Let's also not forget, Coach K is the one who brought this QB in. He may not have been the best coach but he sure as hell would have done a better job managing this situation than what is going on now. Its out of control now and the inmates are running the asylum. Another thing we know, is Coach K definitly wouldn't have put up with the play of this QB, see the Tony Rehn-Angel Molina QB rotation. To the Stanford QB, you're basically getting a pass to throw as many picks as you want, why? Because Coach K skipped town, plain and simple.


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Posted by Another voice
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:35 pm

Nic IS CLEARLY NOT THE BEST QB! I'm sure Nic is a nice guy, THERE IS NOTHING TO FACE! Angel is still our leader! Nic needs to go back to stanford.


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Posted by very sad- Menlo fan
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:42 pm

This story is very sad to hear. And for these so called coaches, they don't know crap on how to run plays. These boys are there because they love the sport of football and love playing the game, and to be treated like crap is really awful. Menlo College needs to get rid of these loser coaches, and find some real ones. Just want to let all the football players know to keep your heads up. And for the little Stanford boy, you really need to give up football because you suck.


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Posted by sad recent alumni
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:59 pm

this school has so many issues and if people were not afraid to talk because of the small intimate setting the community would be shocked


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Posted by nothings going to be done
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:59 pm

ok, you say Angel is the 2nd best QB...then why isn't he at least 2nd string? Angel is not the topic or the reason for this story so why do you keep bringing him up? This story is mainly about the bad coaching staff and that a family donated money to a "charity" so a player could be the star QB then he will return to Stanford to graduate...now that is so High School!! Watch out everyone the next thing this MAN's family will have to do may affect your position at a company you worked hard for and deserve...but $$$$$ seems to buy his way in life!


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Posted by alumni
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:01 pm

graduated with honors and played for these men. The BOARD ( only people who might be objective) need to call a full town hall meeting setting or something with recent alumni and you would be shocked as to some of the things that happen at your school as to the above staement.


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Posted by It's Like This
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:01 pm

This kid is the grandson of the owner of the San Diego Chargers. He was a red shirt walk-on at Stanford, where he did not get a starting QB position. He is graduating in 2010 so the only way he was going to get a starting QB position in college was to transfer to Menlo for this semester only; he plans on transfering back to Stanford to get his degree next semester. Since his family made a donation to Menlo (possibly, to secure the position since they have no other association with the school), the kid is the starting QB over another kid who shared the starting QB position at Menlo for the last two years. The issue is can starting football positions be bought by rich families; can a kid come in for a season and take the starting position away from a kid who is committed to the team and the school for four years? I guess, the answer is "yes", but it is not fair and, thus, the integrity of the Menlo football program is at stake. I do not know what the "Black List" is all about, but all this rhetoric could persuade the coaches to get rid of this soap opera perception and get back to what is fundamentally important to the game of football--best players earn their positions.


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Posted by past alumni
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:03 pm

Im not as worried about the football program( i played) as i am with the school as a whole. i was honestly almost surprised to see a re-credidation. stop pushing out great faculty like kevin mello who actually had enough guts to leave. this is a wuality professor who got fed up with the culture. truly sad because i'm an alum and torn between wanting menlo have good light and media but i morally have to agree that the political structure is absurd.


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Posted by too funny
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:06 pm

Hey maybe these coaches are trying to get a job with the Chargers!!!!!! All Pro teams need "water-boys"...


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Posted by Child please
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:10 pm

One of the MAIN Problems is rarely do the best players start because at Menlo there is NO Competition for starting jobs which not only should occure at training camp but also thru out the season BUT at Menlo Starting jobs are promised in the off season.

I have watched players be Cowboys doing what they want on and off the field, starters that get screamed at during Films every week with same problems yet week after week continue to ignore coaches because they can without threat of being benched, Football like LIFE is about competition.

A REAL Coaching Staff creates competition so if you DO NOT win a starting job out of camp you can compete every week to try and beat out the starter which ofcourse makes the starter work that much harder in PRACTICE and ofcourse no matter who starts wek to week the TEAM is the Winner !!


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Posted by just graduated
a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:22 pm

The president seems like a good person but the only thing the students know him as is they person obsessing over donations. looks like he is getting what he wanted!


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Posted by SINGLETARY
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Niners are winning, oaks get onboard. Can I get an AMEN?


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Posted by Concerned fan
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:35 pm

President Haigh, You need to listen to your community. If you dont act swiftly and decisvely, it will reflect upon you and our great institutiion It is obvious that the favoritism and the blacklisting is going on. You need to have an open meeting with parents, neighbors and players with the utmost confidentiality and no coaches present. Players are fearful of retaliation. This should not be. You need to listen to the players who see it happening. But they have been fearful and they love their team and love to play. It is evident that it is occurring. T My adrenaline is pumping. Players out there you know what is going on. It is your time to speak out. You know who you are--you know there are other players who should be playing and aren't. Stop thinking of yourself. Be vocal. It is about the team, not about you. The favoritism is flagrant. Coach Hazel has not the experience nor the moral fiber to be a coach, let alone an offensive coordinator. You can tell by his play calling and his favoritism, that he is immature and narcisstic. Players should never be intimidated. There should be an open and mutual respect. This is not happening at Menlo. Its not too late to save the season. I am sure there are parents who could fill in as coaches who have more expertise than these losers. Coach Fred is not only small in stature, but small in decision making. His unwritten rule is a fact, "If you ask for any explanation or share your concerns about decision making, you are blackballed or off the team". So much for role models.



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Posted by a clue
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Ha! "I'm sure there are parents who could fill in as coaches" get a clue bud dumbest thing I've heard all day.


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Posted by Shocked fan
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 2:44 pm

Did anyone else bear witness to the big bear hug Coach Fred gave to # 81 and #9 when they made agregious errors? Does #81 have an ego problem that he thinks he can fly or have extended arms to be able to reach in the air 10 feet to catch a ball on the kick return? that was clearly uncathable? He should know better than that and should have called a fair catch. But instead of being reprimanded or benched, he was given a bear hug by head coach leaving the field after screwing up royally. What happened to accountability? Put a back up player in so he knows that he needs to earn his position. Our coach is acting like Congress--no consequences for bad or wrong behavior.


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Posted by gotta b kidding
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm

What blacklist. Last i knew, this is a D-3 team. Looking at the sidelines, doesn't seem like there are a lot of blue chip players not getting the opportunity to play. if they were, they'd likely not be at Menlo.

Sure the coaches can coach the players up more, Freddy may consider putting on a headset and listening in to some of the play calls. I do wonder what the OC is looking at. From my vantage point, just below his, there are a lot of open spaces out there, like #34 was open in the flat all day long. Wanna try a swing pass instead of everything to #2. #81 is worth is weight in gold. Excellent freshman, please don't mess with his head. BTW genius, Coach Fred was helping him learn when he hugged him. Screaming at a kid when he knows he screwed up is idiotic. Shocked Fan, good thing you aren't coaching. In fact, most of you have never coached but you sure are good at second guessing.

Get real. We have an excellent shot at winning the next 3 games and then we're 4-4. Someone please stand up and lead this team. "you can do it!"


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Posted by Diane Allen
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 3:46 pm

In regards to Nicolas Ruhl, I have never read more hateful, spiteful, petty, jealous, cowardly blogs in all my life.
I have known Nick Ruhl for all of his 21 years and you should all be so lucky to know such a bright wonderful, kind young man.
He is guilty of nothing more than being a 4.2 academic student athlete, accepted to Stanford and walking on to play football. Un fortunately, he did not get that chance.
Nick was "INVITED" by Coach K. to come play at Menlo. NO MONEY EVER CHANGED HANDS and for you concerned with NCAA rules, athletes transfer between colleges every year to be able to continue to play their sport in all divisions.
Nick is playing for the shear "love of the game" and felt this to be his last opportunity. What you all should probably be concerned with (particularly as parents) is, how is Nick doing. You do remember Nick was injured and sent to the hospital last Saturday.
SHAME on all of you for not appreciating how hard these kids work, no matter what economic background they come from.


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Posted by Loyal Oaks Fan
a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on Oct 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm

Check out Nick Ruhl on Google. You can find his high school stats. He didn't even start in High School at Lincoln in Stockton. He played in mop up duty and was 6-14 for the whole season in passing and ran 18 times for 19 yards. So after that illustrous prep career he took 4 years off of football before coming to the rescue at Menlo College. Yeah!!! Wahooo!!! Thanks Grandpa Spanos!!! Can I get a pony for Christmas!!!


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Posted by queen bee
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 pm

I have never heard sooo much whining and complaining as you group of parents. This is college, not pop warner or high school.
Picking on the QB only makes you look like the bunch of LOSERS you are!!!
If you are that unhappy, then leave, who needs people like you around.


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Posted by Mr. Football
a resident of Atherton: West of Alameda
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:05 pm

Great recruiting job by coach K! That's a real blood hound there. Isn't that what most coaches do? By that I mean prowling the hallways and class rooms of Stanford in search of high school back up quarterbacks that haven't played football in 4 years and seeing if they want to transfer for a semester to Menlo for one more shot at glory.


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Posted by James J. Kelly
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:08 pm

Dear Nancy,
I appreciate that you wrote to us about the issues with the football program, and I am grateful that you signed your name so that I could respond directly. The one other letter we received was anonymous, but clearly I cannot respond to anonymous correspondence.
Please allow me to update you a bit about the College because it has been changing. These changes are absolutely relevant to every parent's interest in providing his/her child with an excellent education along with the enjoyment, team and confidence skills, and fitness benefits afforded by athletic participation. When Tim Haight and I arrived less than three years ago, the College was about to lose its accreditation, and it had a very high non-retention rate (particularly on the football team) from first to second year. The College could not be sustained if it continued on that path. Transitioning required that the faculty, administration, and staff work very hard by participating in extensive academic program reviews and strategic planning. This year the College received reaffirmation of its accreditation; it received its first-ever recognition as a "Best in the West" school by The Princeton Review; our entering freshman have an average GPA higher than ever before; and retention has jumped dramatically. The College really is moving up and forward.
With academics on a much firmer footing, we are already in the process of conducting a similar program review for athletics. The athletics program is putting together a report to include strengths, weaknesses, and challenges. Once the initial report is ready, we will put it on our website so that others can offer their thoughts. Yes, it is time for reassessment of the athletics program. We are the smallest Division III college in the country to support a full football program. After input is received and we have a finished report, we will bring in outside reviewers. Together with faculty, there will be a rigorous discussion about the various sports on campus.
I want to assure you that we do not sell positions on any team. I understand that an anonymous posting to a blog implied this was the case for football, and unfortunately those that responded to that posting mistakenly took those comments as truth. I have great confidence in our Athletic Director, and I look forward to the current program review as the best way to ensure the continued integrity of Menlo athletics.
If you have any questions, please contact me at your convenience at jkelly@menlo.edu or 650/543-3860.
Sincerely,

Jim Kelly
Executive Vice President and Provost


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Posted by Ann Canova
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Boy oh Boy! The only reason you are picking on the QB is because you are JEALOUS. Let's see, Stanford student, wealthy family, etc.,etc.
Grow up and get a life, you must have better things to do with your time than to pick on some kid!!!!


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Posted by Dumbfounded
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Gotta b kidding must be kidding. No one was questioning #81's ability. He is an awesome player. No one said anything about screaming at him. Just as parents send their kids to their room or put them in a time out to get their attention when they screw up. Is something wrong with that? I dont agree that "hugging" was sending the right message, since these are not little boys. But we can agree that there are different techniques. No one wants to mess with any players head. The coaches are the problem. To equate D-3 players to not not being "blue chip", is truly degrading. It doesnt matter what division they are in. The point is to play the very best players, not the favorites. How do you know how the ability of the players on the sidelines if you dont see them in action? yes, our boys can win the rest of their games, their certainly is the talent. I hope this is not a grave distraction for them. We are behind our boys 150%!!!!!!!


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Posted by ha
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Jim Kelly, what a typical Menlo answer. Your administration makes me puke.


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Posted by more confused
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Jim Kelly, was that some kind of twisted response, have you really read any of the postings? Does this mean you are teamed up with the football coaches or have they threatened you with the "blackball" list?! Obviously you don't sell the positions, you just accept the "donation" and give them their choice, we weren't born yesterday!


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Posted by It's Like This
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 4:44 pm

The issue is not about Nick Ruhl, it is what the coaches are doing about the quarterback position. Coach K may have invited Nick to play, but, if he did not play up to expectations, Coach K would have rotated him out. The problem is having a "not so good" quarterback stay in the game. This is what has caused the attention to the extenuating circumstances regarding Nick's situation. Nobody is jealous! The coaches are bringing the football team down because they are ridiculously short sighted and mean spirited.


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Posted by To Diane Allen
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 5, 2009 at 5:01 pm

Diane, I know how you are feeling, these players should't be the target and I hope the team grows from this and the coaches show the players a bit of appreciation and treat them like the Adults they are and win Saturday's game. I heard Nick was injured, and hope he is recovering well, BUT the fans should be able to voice their opinions about how the coach's treat the players that have been attending Menlo since their freshman year and plan on graduating from the school they play for and who were also "recruited" for their ability to play the game. Since Nick hasn't experianced the bad coaching skills or put on the "list" with the little time he has been there then you really don't know how we all feel or else you would be on our side of the boat defending us. If money has nothing to do with the game, maybe you should tell Nick that bragging about what he has doesn't win him friendship or make the situation any better.


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Posted by No Accountability
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 5:09 pm

Kelly's statement is obviously canned! Nothing about an investigation into the Coaching staff and their obvious black list.


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Posted by Dave Butler
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 5:16 pm

Diane Allen and Queen Bee,

First off you may get a clue that a transfer in isn't sitting well with the football team and the ENTIRE TEAM knows he CAN'T, is NOT a quarterback, you both obviously don't know the sport other than perhaps making donations so why don't you pack him up and take him back to San Diego or wherever it is you people make your donations! Your money is no good here, place the money in your pro football team that is a perenial loser, god knows they need the money in SD rather than Menlo College.

Don't use (KIDS) in your post, this is nothing more than some money changing hands and bringing in a guy to play for the right price, what will happen if the offensive line refuses to block, because this is where its going in a hurry and these coaches are about to get run!


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Posted by Still need answers
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 5:19 pm

I truly would love Haight to respond and address the black list, Kelly did not give much information, that is why it appears like a canned statement. Maybe the team needs to put that kid back on the Cal Train and send him south one or two stops back to his school.


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Posted by Angry Student
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 5:28 pm

remember people.....MONEY TALKS!!!!!!!!

First, the kid needs to be left alone, no need to attack him to that degree. He's striving for his success just like all of us. It's obvious that there are many unanswered questions but pointing fingers will not take us anywhere.

Currently I'm an angry student because It's obvious that there was some kind of deal here....HEY it's my last year at Menlo can I get a deal too, I get my diploma in August instead of June thanks to a "minor" mistake.


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Posted by Rat
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 6:06 pm

Coaches are at fault, when they attack their own players and black list them its time for them to hit the road, and you parents have the power to run them out of town, you've got the attention of the Mercury News, someone is really pissed off and now you got the big guns coming in to investigate, GO MERCURY NEWS!!


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Posted by To the Coaches
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 6:14 pm

The coaches are under a microscope, but they probably can't even help themselves. Saturday will be telling!


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Posted by menlooaks
a resident of Atherton: West of Alameda
on Oct 5, 2009 at 6:28 pm

To Diane Allen,

How fair is it to the kids who go to Menlo to build relationships with their teammates and get a degree for this kid to just come in for a semester and leave and get his Stanford degree? Get off your high horse.


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Posted by One and Nine Record
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 6:37 pm

Coaches won't put Molina back in at qb, they'll throw this season before they allow their egos to get bruised, they are playing with the lives of the kids whose last season will end in turmoil! Do the right thing Hazel, how could you betray our school like that? Coach says if we hit rich boy in practice we're suspended, I guess he'll have to suspend the whole team huh?


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Posted by sara
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 6:48 pm

WOW! So much anger and so much hate! How would you feel if that was your kid they were talking about???? I have never listened to more mean spirited people in my life.
And you Dave Butler are nothing more than a big FAT bag of hot air !!! Absolutely NOTHING you have stated is factual. You know absolutely nothing about football.
Who wouldn't want a Stanford degree for their kid. Get real people, you are nothing more than a bunch of whining, complaining and extremely jealous group.
Quit blogging if you don't know what you are talking about. At least state facts not the bullshit I've been reading!!!!!!!!!


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Posted by Dave Butler
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 6:59 pm

Sara, (resident of another community who knows ZERO about football and loyalty),

We all dream of Stanford degrees for our kids, but maybe they want to go to Menlo, but we are not STU STU STU STUPID!!! Why would we transfer our kid to a school not worthy of him to graduate from then have him rammed down a football team's throat that has built chemistry and not expect the team demand loyalty? Are you stupid? You have to be!! I know more about this sport than you know of ettiquette and loyalty sweetheart!! You know nothing of loyalty and neither does his family, you can't buy loyalty!! Do you think this team is just going to roll over and allow its season to be flushed down the toilet becuse of a donation for a few dollars to a kid wanting to play fantasy football? Well that can be done online at Stanford! This team is refusing to cooperate with treason by its doomed coaches!! If you want him to play use your donation money to hire extras and buy the stanford field for a few hours, we'll come by and pretend to cheer for you and your family!! Get a life!!


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Posted by Where o Where?
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:06 pm

Hey Timmy Haight, are you going to respond to this one or send out your crony Kelly to extinguish the flames?


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Posted by concerned family
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:10 pm

Does everyone know that the Athletic Director is blaming it on these young men?? They paid for it at today's practice and were told they are the reason this is going on, not the coaches, stop the commenting. They do not think it is the parents. Does any adult at this school have a brain?


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Posted by Pat
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:40 pm

Mr. Timothy Haight,
Your answer in no way addresses the current issue at hand. While you may have taken steps in the right direction to improve the academics of Menlo College, you have made no strides in fixing ANY of the problems that plague the college's athletic department. As a current student/athlete, I can personally attest to the current situation regarding your athletic programs. The NAIA mission statement is as follows "Champions of Character." Mr Haight, please take into consideration how YOU are handling your athletic department. Two of your former football players are facing felony assault resulting in great bodily injury charges. One of your current wrestlers, coached by Athletic Director Keith Spataro, was charged with strong armed robbery over the recent homecoming weekend. Your football program is in the middle of a coup that would make Honduras citizens cringe. Champions of character? Tom Cable has more character than the Menlo College athletic department. Your football program is black-listing players, allowing rich kids to buy themselves seasons, and wasting the hard work of the players that actually deserve playing time. Your 'gym' appears to be purchased at "Play it Again Sports" yet you still expect your players to compete at the college level. You have ONE head coach for your soccer program and still pay him less than a junior college assistant. Mr. Haight, 21 million dollars has been donated in the last year to Menlo College, yet virtually no improvements have been made at any level. Perhaps you should take the 45,000/year tuition costs of your students, combine it with the 21 million dollars you just inherited, clean house and make good on the promise you made to each and every athlete that pours blood, sweat, and tears, for your school; because as of now, your alleged "Menlo Advantage" is nothing more than false advertising and intentional fraudulent misrepresentation. This entire situation, and the way your staff conducts itself makes me sick.


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Posted by Cancel the program
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:49 pm

today at practice we were told the program will be canceled, instead of coming together as a family should and discussing this thing, we were threatened to stop or else, man i'm done with this program! i'm gonna miss you guys!


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Posted by tallen
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:49 pm

In response to so many wildly inaccurate statements and conspiracy theories I'd like to state some facts. Ruhl was 70-125 his senior year in hs and recruited by Yale, Brown,and Stanford after attending their camps. He was a recruited walk-on at Stanford. The last 2 years he was a backup behind Pritchard and Loukas under Harbaugh and learned their west coast offense as well as running the scout team offense of every Pac10 opponent. Last winter he sent out feelers to find a place to compete and Coach K drove to Stockton and spent 4 hrs at the Ruhl kitchen table explaining his need for a qb to better implement HIS west coast offense. Coach K's 1 condition was that Ruhl be pre-admitted back to Stanford to get his degree in the spring following the season. Ruhl competed w/5 qb's all w/ equal snaps all spring. The 1st week of camp was the same except that last yrs. qb was not there for 9 days of a 2 week camp because of academic issues. Ruhl earned the starting pos. and a freshman earned the 2nd spot, pure and simple. I've coached football for 15 yrs. and I know its easy to blame the qb and oc for everything. This offense WAS overwhelmed by 3 very good teams but had both quality backs out with injury most of the time, hence vry little grnd. game. In the game with a comparable opp. Ruhl threw for 361 yds. 3 td's and was the NWC player of the week, its obvious that Hazel and Ruhl are are getting better. However, from the 1st qtr. of the FIRST game a certain family was loudly shouting from the stands for last yrs.qb. That it was distracting for the coaches and the players didn't matter. I thought I was back in youth football. I'm sorry in some ways that Coach K,the recruiter in this case, isn't here to listen to it. As for the money conspiracy, I KNOW that besides paying full tuition the Ruhl's gave only in response to the sponsorship request mailer and ONLY for one of the proscribed amts. How pathetic that some bloggers immediately and w/o fact are so cynically driven to class warfare, that a player that has trained 12 mos./yr. for yrs.is ridiculed just because his family is well off. I know that his family has taught him that it is all about his effort because he will always have to fight this kind of battle, but this is still stunning.
p.s. last yrs. team started 1-4 including a shutout in the 5th game by Linfield. Were famlies yelling from the stands for a new qb? Oh wait, he's this yrs.3rd string qb.


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Posted by Oak Fball Alum
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:55 pm

If your concerned about the kids being hurt by words from the AD then maybe the AD should listen to what the majority of the players are saying. Would you speak up and say something if you were already in the position of battling for a spot. People on here who are so qucik to judge and are telling people to shut their mouths, or grow up or are comparing this to high school whining, you are in the wrong. Every college program in the country deals with criticism, why should menlo be treated with kit gloves? The only difference is this post is on a local website and not a national sports website like ESPN. What about what happened with michigan earlier in the year? those comments came from the players and alums, so are most of these comments.

The transfer qb is just one example, he isnt the problem, its the coaches. 7 years of losing seasons, hmmmmm, I dont think that the problem is the players. And if it is the players, then the COACHES are the ones who recruited some of these "quality" players. It is not the players fault. And for everyone on here who keeps calling these players "kids" are very mistaken. Unless its a parent talking about their own kid, these are men and young men on this team. They are allowed to have a voice and have an opinion. And if that is true about the AD ripping the kids for this problem (as posted by "concerned family") that is a huge mistake, how is this their fault? All any player in any sport wants is a chance to compete and to prove themselves and its apparent that some of the players getting key playing time over the past 7 years aren't getting the job done.

As an Alum i hope this causes the menlo administration to take action and right the ship in the football and athletic portion of this school. I think the new president has done a great job thus far turning the school around. But if menlo wants money from noted alums with money to give they need to show that they deserve it, and 7 years of losing seasons is definitely showing that they dont. And its not just the football team, I was reading the paper the other day and read that a menlo alum, who is part of the athletic department, was involved in a felony assult??? Whats going on over there? I hope the new president takes these allegations seriously and takes a serious look into the program.

here are some questions to ask
Why doesn't menlo athletics have a mandatory random drug testing program for athletics like every other legitimate school in collegiate athletics?

who is admitting these "one semester" transfer students and why? how does that help the college and the athletic program?

when hiring a new head coach, why would you hire someone who has been there through all of the loosing season, and who preaches relatively the same culture as his predecessor?

I hope for the players next year that something drastic changes around that school so that more alums will want to come out and watch players who they have seen go from a green frosh to and experienced junior or senior. No more of these transfers who come for a year then leave. Maybe even if your losing, you will still draw a bigger support from the Alumni if you have like-able players who have been around for 3 or 4 years.


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Posted by face the facts
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm

How about this Tallen, Not good enough to graduate with us, Not good enough to play with us. Plain and Simple. As for you addressing, "last years team" and the shut out at Linfield. It was 9-0 on the road, not 31-7 at home. It doesn't take a math major to figure out the difference. Last years team was a family, we had our differences inside the house but they were handled inside the house, maybe we didn't agree with the coaches all the time but we sure as hell believed in each other. It never came to this, and who are you to tell people what to say in the stands? Have you ever heard of the first amendment? This has gotten out of hand, who knows what's going to happen if anything at all. But what a sick, sad and disgusting moment for a football program, an athletic department and a school. But its ok, in typical Menlo College fashion they'll blame someone else and cover the stink with Febreeze. What a waste of prime real estate.


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Posted by Oak Fball Alum
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:05 pm

Will people stop posting about the Stanford transfer nick character, he is not the issue. Nobody cares about his HS stats and who he was recruited by. Please stop posting nick whoever HS stats, if hes a senior hes old enough to speak for himself. if you are on here to "defend his honor" then your wasting your time. the real issue is the losing tradition and the less then admirable coaching morals being instilled for the past 7 years at this school and how they are not working. If you are a family or friend of this stanford character you have no clue about how things have happened over the years at this school. But every one is allowed to post so if you must keep posting his stats and who he was recruited by, your just wasting time and making everyone laugh at him just a little more every time.


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Posted by krista
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:25 pm

I've had the privilege and the pleasure of knowing the Ruhl family for many years. I have never met a more generous family. And by that I mean the time they have given to their community and their children's schools.
Three of their five children have grown up to be incredible adults and their teenage twins are equally incredible. Their oldest daughter went to Northwestern on a full volleyball scholarship, the second daughter went to Yale as a recruited swimmer and Nicolas was recruited to Stanford. All five are great student athletes.
They accomplished this through years of hard work and dedication to their sport. They didn't have to buy their children's way into any school!!!!!
What I have read here today is a vicious, verbal, attack against one of the most incredible young man I have ever had the pleasure to know.
I guess that's what you call TRASH talking and I must consider the source. What an appalling group of people you must be to attack the integrity of such an accomplished young person.


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Posted by alum
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:32 pm

PLEASE STOP POSTING ABOUT MR RUHL. He is not the issue, you obviously dont know that since hes only been at menlo for less than a semester......... im sure he is a great guy, and has worked hard. The fact is apparently he is thought of differently by his peers at menlo from reading the posts here. Thanks stop posting about him


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Posted by team member
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Nick its a teammate. dont worry about all this its probably 5 unpset parents there kids were stars in high school and are child-like themself. your teammates got your back. of course some of our team supports angel because of our long term friendship but this is rediculous what these people are saying about you. hope you get better pal and sorry you had to come to a school where some idiots parents start this. the only at fault should be administration and spataro who blamed us for this. haha were not the ones posting its the parents i guess.


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Posted by Coaching is the issue
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm

The problem lies within the coaches in this program. 7 straight losing seasons..That's 7 different squads, therefore the players are not the problem, and if they are, then it is the coaches fault for recruiting them.Either way, coaches are to blame. Maybe you should also look into your offensive coordinator, whom played on the Menlo football team with many of the seniors still on the team. How are they suppose to respect a guy they played with and take orders from him... The coaching staff is very dysfunctional and it shows. The team has no direction and will continue to downward spiral like every year until you change the culture of that team. And you do not do that by hiring the same staff who produced a 3-7 record, and graduated many people...But don't worry, I'm sure lewis and clark is coming up and you can feel confident for 1 game. Menlo football is like the Oakland A's..They cannot retain any good players because nobody will stick around to put up with that program...And yes, the retention rate of menlo football players is atrocious...


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Posted by committee of one to make a diffrence
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Does anyone out there in the Menlo community know who quit the football team recently or perhaps today? rumor has it someone did. What is his number? why did he quit? please post. If you are the player--speak up. This is important to the future of the program. Please e mail me at sosmenlo@yahoo.com


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Posted by ALUM NOT A PARENT
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:58 pm

It is funny reading all of these posts and then still seeing "a team member" saying its the parents. Correct me if I am wrong but the educated, relevant posts are being made by concerned menlo football alums like myself.

The players should read this and be happy that there are still alumni who still care about the current players. Alums who take time out of their lives to try and shed some light on the wrong doings and poor coaching that seems to be a routine at menlo now. I hope these posts about the AD ripping the team is not true because that makes no sense to me. The coaches who call themselves "men" need to take some accountability for their actions. And how do you hire a first year, VERY YOUNG OC who has zero coaching experience...... go take some time to find an older more seasoned coach someone who has maybe been retired for a few years or something. Dont just do the easy thing and hire and ex-qb to run the same horrid offense that has produced losing season after losing season for nearly a DECADE.

I wish menlo's administration would have taken a little more time and effort in finding a new coaching staff that would create a winning culture. Maybe they should look at current Niners head coach mike singletary. Who has taken a bunch of "misfits" and completely changed the culture of that team. I am not saying get an ex-nfl all pro linebacker, but take some time and find someone who will give the team a chance in all facets of the game and wont be tempted to welcome in one semester players. I am saddened to see my college football team turn into a mockery by its staff. I am sorry players, hang in there guys.


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Posted by Volleyball Checking in
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:59 pm

Mr. Tallen, answer me one question: Will your son graduate at Menlo? Please ask him to make a public statement to our student body, he at least owes us an explanation as to why he won't demonstrate the school spirit by using our school. Aren't we good enough for him?

Thank you :)


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Posted by team member
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:02 pm

Mr. Butler, the program is almost done because of people like you. lol this whole thing started by them???? Keep talking because your idiotic comments are letting everyone know that this whole situation is derived from a few angry parents like yourself. lol. And i didnt know you were at practice today butler boy. you would be surprised how supportive the team is of nick and of course some players favor angel but no one thinks nick bought his way in. the only frusterated players are yours sons because they are not athletic enought to play. i dont start i just play somne special teams but the person in front of me is a little better. i dont complain to daddy and mommy and this is how you grow as a man. let your kids deal with these situations on your own. sad parenting has come to this.


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Posted by team member
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:05 pm

and the parents like you who bad mouth the team the whole game are embarrasing your children. you dont think we can figure out what parents are behind this. i feel bad for your kids. luckily we are mature enough not to take out our anger at them we just feel bad for them because their parents are so childish.


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Posted by Dave Butler
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:08 pm

Team member boy, get this straight, you and I both know there are more than five parents, you obviously weren't sitting in the stands Saturday, today you lost a player, tomorrow you have more parents working on getting their kids out of here, [portion deleted]. You are putting your brown nose before your loyalty to your team and saying its okay to come into a program and pay to play. You are threatened to have your program shut down [portion deleted], will you still be here next year? Hmm, I doubt it!


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Posted by knowing
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Dear Alum Not A Parent,
It is true that the AD went onto the field today and berated the players for the losses. In 35 years of association with athletics, I have never seen such a shameful thing before. And this from an AD whose wrestler (he is also the wrestling coach) is accused of a strong arm robbery this weekend.

The AD stated to the team that nothing would get Fred or Hazel fired becuse he thinks they are doing a great job. That makes him the only one around who know less about football (and apparently integrity ) then Hazel and Fred.

The ONLY issue is the appalling behavior of the Head Coach and OC. The fact that the AD would make this statement of support following a game where the Head Coach is called for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' and sets up the opponent for a touchdown from which Menlo was unable to recover speaks to the AD's inability to see reality.

The coaching staff has their favorites and they have nothing to do with ability; they have to do with promises made and attempts to justify decisions.

The team has been badly coached for several years. Now they are badly coached and berated and belittled by the Coaches and the Administration. This is the worst Athletic Department I have ever seen. Shame on the school administration for ducking it's responsibility to do right by the student athletes who are paying for the privelege to represent this school.


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Posted by IteEr
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:27 pm

Team member [portion deleted]
If you actually read this yourself, [portion deleted] you would obviously see that these alums are not bashing your team/their former team. They are strictly expressing their dissatisfaction of the coaching staff that has absolutely ruined any tradition of winning once affiliated with Menlo College football. Your coaches decisions led to this anarchy. Your coaches decisions lead to your losses. Your coaches decisions have led Menlo College to a worse winning percentage than the Detroit Lions over the last four years. It is not the players' faults. It's a trickle down effect, beginning with the President, flowing through the hypocritical athletic director, and unfortunately ending in the players' suffering.


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Posted by Joe the plumber
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Hello,

Would everyone please lay off the Ruhl belittling. While I'm not physically able to play football (Sometimes I feel like even I would be better), I love watching these guys play. I would hate to see the day that the program is finished because of a few parents pointing the finger at a dashing young man.


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Posted by Mayhem
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:11 pm

I agree, lay off Ruhl! Its not his fault, he's just being puppetted and for Hazel to do what he is doing to Molina is an outright tragedy, you guys know as well as I do that we can turn this thing around, now Nic is done for the year and Hazel knows Molina can lead us but because he hates Angel he won't be anywhere near center taking snaps, why Hazel? Why are you so hell bent on ruining our lives over your ego, its not cool Hazel, imagine when you played if you were black listed, but I say this Hazel, what goes around comes around, thank god its my senior year! Your the worst coach I have ever worked with Hazel!


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Posted by PLEASE STOP
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:11 pm

Yes let's get this straight this is not a Ruhl vs. Molina rival. The real subject is bad coaching decisions.
Please leave these young men out of the posts. It is a Guidici - Hazel issue! That parents are obviously frustrated with.

Everyone is probably thinking it is The Molina Famiy posting this negativity for your information IT'S NOT. Don't know NICK RUHL personally but I am sure he is a good guy. Hope he feels well soon. Let's focus on this weekends game. GO MENLO!


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Posted by Afraid to say
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 5, 2009 at 10:44 pm

Shame on you Athletic Director. You really know how to build commamaderie in your team. Belittle them, intimidate them, make them feel like garbage. You are no leader. President Haight--is this kind of leadership and behavior acceptable to you? How do you expect to turn your football program around when you allow "one of the boys" to come in and badger the team. It is not the team members writing mosts of the posts--its fans, parents, alums. You should have met with the team--not the AD. He hired these losers and has to defend his position. Get a grip. Show some leadership or we will all be forced to take the San Jose Mercury up on their offer to expose this charade and inner workings of some very cruel individuals you have as coaches. Lets face it, men do not mature until at least age 25-30. Why risk putting our young people at risk who are obviously immature.


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Posted by Player Hater
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:01 pm

I was at the meeting with the AD today and he didnt badger anyone. he simply told us to take responsiility for our actions. The TEAM is 1-4 that includes coaches and players. Stop all the infighting and lets get a win this week


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Posted by player
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:26 pm

Are these grown men that we are talking about as players. Has anyone gone to anyone personally and expressed the concerns. Sounds to me like the AD put things into perpsective for the lads and some feelings got hurt. Sad truth is that players play and coaches coach and all the bashing of the coaches shows the players dont know much about responsibility.


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Posted by HAWAIIAN
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:35 pm

As an alumni who played for Menlo College for four years and graduated from Menlo College, all I have to say is that Menlo College plays in the hardest conference (North West Conference) in all of the Division III. So winning just doesn't come from changing one position.

This is not for the community to handle, or anybody else who is not involved with the team.



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Posted by knowing
a resident of another community
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:37 pm

'player'

[Portion deleted. Talk about the topic; don't bash other posters.]

The only people who know nothing about responsibility in this situation are the President and his administration and the AD. It is their responsibility to hire knowledgable coaches who by their actions inspire respect.

Respect is earned; you cannot intimidate and belittle people into repecting you. And you cannot win games and lead teams without respect.


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Posted by Hoping for Positive Changes
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:43 pm

Hello all,

I've read through all of these posts and am amazed at the comments that have been made.

It's obvious that there is a real concern here that needs to be addressed. Take your concerns and head on over to Menlo's Board of Administration with them. Better yet, if you feel the administration is so corrupt, take the Mercury News up on their offer to investigate and confidentially send them your lists of concerns so that an investigation can take place.

Let the results of that investigation speak for the program and initiate some positive changes. Bashing players and bringing down the team's morale does nothing constructive for our Oaks!

Bravo for the Alums who've brought forward some of the ghosts in the closet and dirt that was shoved under the rugs. Take those concerns and do something productive with it! Change is needed, but it starts with all of you!

Mr. Butler, I am unsure of what your intentions are in condemning Team member for being brave enough to speak up. Instead of focusing on the fact that someone out there is not saying what you want to hear, you should commend Team member on having the guts to stand behind his team and ALL of its members even in the face of all this adversity.

IteEr, what is to be gained by condemning Team member for his grammar? Instead of focusing on the spelling of his words and his "command of the English language" read what he is saying. There is frustration in his words just as there is in the entire context of this blog. Negativity breeds negativity - and that is most assuredly not needed here.

Team member, bravo to you! It because the team is made up of great young men such as yourself that you all will be able to regain focus and give it your all this Saturday - I'm sure of that! Don't let Mr. Butler take away from your positive remarks by making accusatory remarks about the parents. Let the parents yell all they want to and whatever they want to. Focus on the fans rooting for you & cheering you on!!

Go Oaks!


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Posted by President Barrack Obama
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:44 pm

The time has come for these young Americans to overthrow the evil hierarchy of the corrupt coaching staff. I will fully support a coup d'etat of the football program at Menlo College acted out by its players. After the coaching staff is overthrown, I will personally see to it that a new coaching staff is put into power with clean backgrounds and the old coaching staff will be prosecuted for their atrocities. Then the Stanford transfer will be escorted by local law enforcement back to his original campus to ensure his safety and he will be forbidden to enter the property of Menlo College for 5 years. This administration will not stand and bare witness to this kind of behavior.

-President Barrack Obama


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Posted by Alum 2000
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 6, 2009 at 12:11 am

As a former student-athlete, I completely understand how all of you parents feel because I know that we don't receive athletic scholarships to play sports at Menlo, we are paying good money to attend this school. So I understand. But you all know that this is life. Life is not fair. This is an important lesson for the other players that even though this player may not be "producing" right now and his family allegedly donated money, that is how life goes. These players are adults and need to learn that it happens and parents should not be complaining about it.

Parents also need to realize that the head coach position is not easy. I know coach Fred personally and I can tell you that he devotes his life to this program and has been even when Coach K was the head coach. You people have to remember, Menlo plays teams like Linfield, Humboldt State, and other schools that have the funds to recruit and give these "Diversity" scholarships to so they get the "cream of the crop" players. Menlo Athletics, because its limited funds, which are reduced every year, has to make due with the kids they get. They aren't able to really recruit because they have close to nothing to give.

I think its important for everyone to remember that through all of this, it's all about getting an education. So whatever you as parents or players think; if you transfer somewhere else or stay, the most important thing is getting that degree.


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Posted by Sounds like BS
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 6, 2009 at 10:06 am

You guys talk about the coaches like you are posting as them, all I want to know will there be open competition at the QB position? [portion deleted.] Time to be fair Coaches, we can still turn this thing around and win a few more games, but open up the competition.


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Posted by Jenine
a resident of Portola Valley: Brookside Park
on Oct 6, 2009 at 10:14 am

Hi, I'm new on here and I have perused all the posts by concerned parents and faculty of the school, my question is why is the young man Molina banned from playing his position he was recruited for? Do they have him in uniform or is he just sitting on the bench? Do college football players have a certain eligibility period in which they can play? If so, how long does Mr. Molina have left in his tenure at Menlo? My Son will be graduating from Menlo School and wants to attend the College, but after reading the awful things going on in your program I am having my doubts.

Thank you,

Jenine


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Posted by Afraid to say
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 6, 2009 at 10:46 am

To Jenine,

Angel Molina is a junior. He played his freshman and sophmore year as the starting Qb. This happened early in his freshman year when the starting quarterback was injured and he had to take over. I hope I have this correct..as this is what I heard. Now the coaches changed his position to running back. He has played a little, but not too much. It is a shameful thing that the coaches did to this young man. he should be put back in as quarterback


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Posted by soon to be former player
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 6, 2009 at 10:52 am

Jenine, send your son to another college, as long as we have the current prez and a/d things are deteriorating. [portion deleted.] 12 of us are packing up after this semester and heading elsewhere, one of our guys quit yesterday, so goes the ship, sink sink sink! Sad thing is NO ONE GIVES A DAMN!


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Posted by RHine@AlmanacNews.com
editor of The Almanac
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:25 am

Post deleted because of use of all caps. No shouting.


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Posted by Steven
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:27 am

I am saddened to hear of the demise of your team, but what kind of coach allows his team to disintegrate at the seams and then refuses to do something about it, I don't know about you all but I'm dumbfounded by the lack of attention your President and Athletic Director are paying to this matter. Sad situation indeed, they should all be ashamed of themselves.


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Posted by Scott
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:34 am

How could this assistant coach treat one of his own players like that? Especially when his parents are paying so much to educate that yound man in that particular school is beyond insanity. Doesn't that assistant coach realize he is toying with this young man's life. I'm really surprised by all of this brew-ha-ha, I would have never expected this from Menlo College, what a crying shame they have to be in our neighborhood.


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Posted by Afraid to say
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:36 am

To Soon to be Former Player soon to be. I dont blame you for leaving. But believe me, a lot of people give a damn and certainly care. Maybe not the Menlo staff, but the community cares deeply for our team. [portion deleted.] who quit yesterday? [portion deleted] When the season is over, you 12 need to contact the Mercury News and enlighten them. Then something will change. It might be too late for you--but not for the new guys coming in...Keep your head up high


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Posted by To Steven and Jenine
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Hills
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:43 am

Steven, the Athletic director is involved, he supports the coaching staff!!He is well aware of it all. Not sure what the President is waiting for. It seems the coaches are proud of their decision making and must have severe control issues. But i am just a supporter of the team and it doesn't look like there will be any changes in the near future.

To Jenine, please look elsewhere if Football is what your son wants to do, unless you are wealthy then this is the perfect school for your son to receive the attention a player deserves. My son will not be looking into this college anymore, with an Athletic Director like this, I will put my earned money into a school we can be proud to talk about.


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Posted by Sunshine
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:47 am

you know the football program is going bye bye don't you? trustees don't want it anymore and was almost cancelled last year.


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Posted by RHine@AlmanacNews.com
editor of The Almanac
on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:52 am

I'm closing this thread down. Everyone has had a full opportunity to vent. TownSquare is not the place to disparage individuals and accuse one guy of hating another, etc.


Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

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