Nurses plan protest at Whitman's Atherton home Other Topics, posted by Editor, The Almanac Online, on Jul 14, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Members of the California Nurses Association say that about 1,000 of them will be coming to the Atherton home of Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman on Thursday, July 15, at around noon to protest Ms. Whitman's proposal to cut 40,000 state jobs if she is elected.
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Posted by A non moose, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Clearly, you think those who feel their livelihood, and those of fellow working Californians, is threatened, should just sit back and watch Meg's commercials on their tee-vee?
Maybe if Meg would just go out and answer the questions many of us have, either by talking to reporters or having a series of debates, we could figure out how she is going to cut 40,000 jobs, and yet somehow create jobs, in the middle of this recession.
Because her track record, much like Carly's, is to create jobs (mostly)overseas. Oh, and they both donated to Boxer in the past, though they didn't vote for her.
Posted by Mom of 2, a resident of the Atherton: Lindenwood neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I think that someone's residence should be off limits, regardless of the town where one resides.
I live in Lindenwood and have just received a notice from the Atherton Police that all of Oak Grove from Middlefield to Greenoaks will be closed from 11-2 tomorrow to accommodate the upwards of 1000 protestors expected. It's summertime and the kids are out playing and riding their bikes - now a large portion of our neighborhood will be taken over by political protestors. I don't have a problem with the protests, but it just does not belong in a residential neighborhood. We didn't ask for this.
Posted by disgusted, a resident of the Menlo Park: Belle Haven neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Why don't the nurses just throw Meg in a pond and see if she floats? Seems like the kind of tactic that they would probably find appealing.
I haven't been a Meg supporter, but I'm absolutely fed up with the third-finger treatment these unions are giving to candidates who want to serve the residents of this state -- that's all the residents, not just the ones protected by quasi-terrorist organizations. She may just get my vote.
By the way, moose, lots of kids playing in Lindenwood. Sometimes it's hard to see things that your ideology prevents you from grasping.
Posted by Alice Hansen, a resident of another community, on Jul 14, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I AM A NURSE AND I SUPPORT MEG WHITMAN; I know many nurses in my profession that feel as I do. We just aren't as verbal. I have received several e-mails from John Burton asking me to join in his protest. I refused.
To observe the unprofessional behavior of some in our ranks is very disturbing. Calling her "Queen Meg" is very childish.
At this point in time, California needs someone with business sense. Career politicians have had their chance and failed. I urge fellow professional nurses to think for themselves and not be taken in by special interest groups.
Posted by Bob, a resident of the Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Forty thousand job cuts? Add on their spouses, relatives, adult voting children,
and all who support nurses or any vitally needed positions like public safety, and that's a lot of voters going to the other side. "Governor Moonbeam" must be beaming all over the place. Meg may need every vote she can get down to the wire.
Posted by A non moose, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm
How does "ideology" prevent me "from grasping" seeing "kids ride bikes"?
My experience was that, a decade ago, I saw very few children playing outside in Lindenwood, compared to other neighborhoods. Lots of reasons, I'm sure: perhaps like us, we were on one of the busier "portal" entrance streets (tho we rode bikes over to Laurel a lot.)Also, by the nature of 200' lots, there are just less kids than more compact neighborhoods. Maybe more homes have transferred to families in the last decade. And that observation wasn't unique. But if you think it's my "ideology"? Whatever.
But your other comments belie your claim of independence: "...third-finger treatment..." "...quasi-terrorist organizations..." "...to serve the residents ..."
Those dirty, nasty anarchists that are just ruining California!!
Nurses? Really? Nurses? If anyone serves our residents....
They, and others, just want Meg to come out from behind her advertising veil and talk about our great state.
She won't. So they are marching to her.
Our great state deserves a lot of debates between those who feel they deserve to be our leader. Don't we?
Posted by Bob, a resident of the Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 7:43 pm
To the Atherton moms and others - let's make sure we don't hear any complaints from you everytime Gov Meg decides to visit home with her security detail which shuts down all the streets when she's traveling to and fro.
Posted by disgusted, a resident of the Menlo Park: Belle Haven neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Fortunately for many of you, stupidity, nastiness, and poor taste are still legal.
Would you haters be reacting this way if Meg lived in, say, Suburban Park? Or is it okay to throw bricks because that's not your glass house?
Mouse, we don't live in Atherton but my kids play with kids who live there. Why wouldn't they? The yards are big enough so that they can get some real games going! It's not as if the Atherton tots were all too busy taking polo lessons at the Circus Club. And having hundreds of angry nurses swarm their neighborhood may be kind of tramatic, you think?
Posted by Mom of 2, a resident of the Atherton: Lindenwood neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 8:01 pm
1000 protesters converging on a residential neighborhood to make a political point is not something that any area should have to deal with. Protest all you want at Ms. Whitman's campaign HQ!
BTW, a security detail periodically is a far cry from what is predicted for tomorrow. This is a small neighborhood with few access points, it is going to create a huge mess for many of us.
Moose - drive through Lindenwood anytime that school is not in session and you will see a number of kids out riding their bikes, running, playing with their dogs. in the evening you will also see entire families out walking after dinner - this is a real neighborhood!
Posted by common sense, a resident of the Atherton: Lindenwood neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 9:22 pm
It seems that most of those who are haters of Meg Whitman just don't get it. They jump to conclusions that make absolutely no sense. She doesn't want to get rid of jobs--she wants to cut back on GOVERNMENT jobs. The nursing jobs should be considered private sector jobs and not government jobs. This is an area that Meg wants to help grow and prosper. The unions get everyone all riled up over nothing and are doing a disservice to their members. We need prosperity in our state, not government mandates and unfunded liabilities. A vote for Meg is a vote for a better life in California. A vote for Jerry Brown is a vote for unchecked government power and unfunded liabilities that cannot be sustained. Government does not make jobs, the great people of this state do and it is time to have someone as governor who has experience in creating jobs.
Posted by mom of 2, a resident of the Atherton: Lindenwood neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Just because one can, does not mean that one should. I am not debating the legality of the protest, just questioning whether it makes sense (political or otherwise). Not sure how inundating a small residential neighborhood with 1000 protestors ( this is what the Atherton police are planning for) is in anyone's best interests.
Posted by curious, a resident of the Menlo Park: Downtown neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Is Meg even going to be home on Edge St for the nurse demo?
I doubt it. If she has any sense she'll be at her 150 acre Skyline Ranch (purchased for $20 million in 2005) near Telluride, Colo. Why don't the nurses demo there and partake of the offerings at the former dude ranch.
Posted by disgusted, a resident of the Menlo Park: Downtown neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 10:31 am
Meg is in southern California. So the protest won't affect her, but it will affect thousands of other residents and thousands of blue collar workers trying to get to and from work. Good way to make enemies, union!
As common sense notes, this isn't even about cutting nursing jobs, but about eliminating government jobs. She wants to rein in our out-of-control state finances. Whether or not you like Meg, why would any taxpayer be opposed to that?
Posted by A non moose, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 11:03 am
Of course Alice has our respect, as we should respect all, shouldn't we?
But I'm curious: "resident" claims she's a "real" nurse, is that to imply those out exercising their First Amendment rights are not "real"?
God bless them all, each and every one....
I disagree with your blanket view of "career politicians." Many have failed us, but not all. My view of whom has and has not failed us may differ from yours, but surely you must respect some individual politicians.
My concern is bringing in unproven outsiders that think they can buy an election and run from the discourse our great state demands.
Don't we want to know how she is going to fix our state? She needs to talk, answer frank questions, and debate. Like all good politicians.
That's all the nurses are trying to highlight.
Do we really want another Arnold? (70% disapproval)
Posted by disgusted, a resident of the Atherton: other neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Is the nurse's union paying the bill for costs to all the towns involved? There are police from Atherton, Menlo Park, Redwood City, Belmont, the Sheriff's office, the Highway Patrol, etc, and somebody has to pay. Oh wait, I forgot, it's okay - go ahead and spend the money - the guy in line behind you will pay the bill!!! What a joke..!
Posted by Annoyed, a resident of the Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 12:38 pm
There is something pathetic about the statement just released from the Nurses Union: there are 20 buses on the way with 1000 people.
So, let me understand this: a bunch of nurses are theoretically taking their own time off (I'd like to see the stat on that) to attend this but require the union to foot the bill to bus them in for a protest at a private home where it is highly likely that no one will be there to "receive" the message. Instead, it will do nothing but annoy the bleep out of ordinary, private citizens of the area (e.g., me) for the sole purpose of getting the television and new reporting. Idiots. No wonder union membership in the private sector is at the lowest level ever and the only growth in union membership is in the public sector.
Unions are an anachronism from another bygone age. Let the market function properly and we might get this once-great state back on the right track.
Posted by Annoyed, a resident of the Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Hi Reality Check, if we actually had a functioning market, such issues may have been avoided (at least with respect to BP). One of the great problems with the BP incident (not to distract people from the instant discussion) is that the environmental leftists have closed off every other rational area of oil exploration (e.g., ANWR) and have forced oil companies to the outer shelf and to drill in deep water. That's not to say that BP didn't do some pretty stupid things (it did) but the problem may not have occurred at all if we were actually allowed to tap our own natural resources.
Posted by Ethan, a resident of the Menlo Park: University Heights neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 1:26 pm
When I used to live down on Coleman across from the seminary, there was a traffic barrier near the Atherton border that did a good job of keeping the MP apartment proles and other riffraff out of the neighborhood. Tax money well spent. Since Meg has stated that she believes 1% of taxpayers pay 50% of all taxes in California, I'm sure if elected she will want to make sure a goodly portion of that money is funneled back to the right sort of people. For example, paying dozens of police to maintain law'n'order in the face of Nurse Ratched and her minions. Otherwise it will be Oakland all over again, right?
Posted by James, a resident of the Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 1:51 pm
While I support the ability to have and voice opinions, it should be balanced with its overall impact. I dare say that this protest will have a far greater impact on the intrusion to the neighborhood residents and local traffic and cost $$$$ in police services than it will in the message the nurses are hoping to deliver.
Posted by Mom of 2, a resident of the Atherton: Lindenwood neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm
I think this "protest" was a bit of a bust. Lots of noise from the nurses union before the event, indicating that huge numbers would show up. I walked over there earlier today - there were 200-300 people - maybe, but definitely not 1000. Seems that the organizers of this "protest" could not interest enough nurses to fulfill their expectations.
So, lots police effort and presence for a big flop. Yeah, lots of helicopters and airplanes from the media flying overhead, just a big PR event.
Posted by resident, a resident of another community, on Jul 15, 2010 at 2:31 pm
non moose, all the politicians were unproven outsiders first time and by electing we gave them an opportunity .so why you are concern about Meg Whitman?Many career politicians failed us ,your are right that not all but then if Meg fails us she will be one of them. So we have to give her an opportunity who has proved her ability by being a CEO of e-bay.
Posted by disgusted first, a resident of the Menlo Park: Downtown neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I hope the nurses' union is footing the bill for all the public servants who were redirected to Oak Grove on behalf of the nurses. I hope the nurses' union will compensate any residents who could not obtain police assistance because the local force was camped out on Oak Grove.
Posted by neighbor, a resident of the Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Lets be clear. There are NO kids on bikes in Atherton. Menlo Park maybe, MP or EPA res. riding through Atherton, perhaps. The immigrant worker biking to work at an Atherton home, definitely.
And To all the folks asking the unions to pay for the public service, I suppose you are just as loud and determined when you are asking those Goldman Sachs Ceo's and the like for a Gov't Bailout Refund? Plus interest? It's like all the Medicare/Social Security recipients being anti-Health Care Reform, like they are sending the money back or something. Geez. I mean come on, I would definitely prefer to keep nurses and their families employed then making sure people like Meg Whitman get their huge bonuses, can upkeep their private jets, country club membership and second-third homes.
Really a nurse is for Meg? Seriously? Like a nurse can even remotely relate to Meg. Can anyone, employed, making $150k or less think for a second Meg is looking out for their best interest - absolutely INSANE. She is looking out for a small number of elite, just like herself.
Posted by Neighbor, a resident of the Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 3:09 pm
and OMG, the overall impact... holy smokes, I had to drive around the block to get home. WOW that was really hard, I should be compensated for my 20 seconds of lost time. I will never get that back, oh the tragedy!
Posted by A non moose, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 3:31 pm
"mom of 2"
First it was "It's summertime and the kids are out playing and riding their bikes"
And now it's "...both of them have summer jobs..."
Good for them! And it's unions that have long fought the way to protect them and other working families.
I'm sure in the long run, both you and your boys will realize your few minutes of disruption is a minor cost the benefit of nurses fighting for Californian families thru constitutionally protected actions.
Posted by Observer, a member of the Woodside High School community, on Jul 15, 2010 at 3:39 pm
some grist for an article from cost and permit process from the link above on Atherton permits ...
17.38.050 Application Submittal requirements
G. A deposit as determined by the Police Chief for the funding of any additional security
measures not provided by the applicant;
17.38.070 Permit Requirements
B. ... if the event is not conducted on a single site, or is to be conducted within the public right-of-way, the applicant shall pay for the cost associated with the publication of the notice in a newspaper of general circulation at least ten days prior to issuance of a permit.
Posted by Mom of 2, a resident of the Atherton: Lindenwood neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Moose - I didn't say my kids were riding bikes. I said, "it's summertime and the kids are out riding bikes". You chose to argue whether kids in Lindenwood actually ride bikes.
Yes, both of my kids have summer jobs, but I never said they were boys.
I am not going to get into a political argument with you - we are all entitled to our opinions. The only point that I was trying to make is that real people live here and I think the nurses protest was an attempt to disrupt the neighborhood to make a political point. I don't think it served them well.
Posted by disgusted, a resident of the Menlo Park: Downtown neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 3:58 pm
As far as our kids' professional future is concerned, it would be best to get rid of the unions. Unions are not only a terrible drag on the economy, their main role in this day is to ensure that mediocre employees remain employed. My kids don't need the "protection" of a thug-run corrupt organization, thank you anyway.
Unions made sense for non-English speaking laborers in a pre-minimum wage, pre-OSHA world. No more. Their adolescent antics, like today's pout-in, reveal them for the self-serving attention-getting shills they have become.
If I ran a hospital, I would fire everyone who participated in this unauthorized outing. I'd rather hire employees who are dedicated to their job and understand the relationship between hard work and compensation. Not these lazy marchers who would rather engage in a whine-fest than work.
Atherton, I hope you can figure out where to send the bill!
Posted by disgusted, a resident of the Menlo Park: Downtown neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Mom of 2, as far as some people are concerned, the only teens who work are boys. Their female counterparts are staying home, applying makeup, and getting ready for their boyfriends to get off work and take them to the movies.
No wonder Moose is pro-union -- s/he thinks it's still 1950!
Posted by A non moose, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Well, there ya go again.... (love his line, fwiw)
We agree to disagree: you're anti-union, I'm pro-working families. But rather than delve into that (anytime, but perhaps on another thread) the consistent thing I notice is your lack of addressing the core issue here: the nurses marched to call attention to the fact that Meg hides behind an elaborate and extensively funded campaign to keep from having to talk to the press and her opponent.
Where's Meg? Come out behind the $100 million advertising veil.
Tell us Meg, how are you different from Arnold?
(And if we were in another thread on unions, I'd reply to your "1950's" comment with something like: ...and in the 50's, it was UNIONS that built America's middle class. One of four workers was unionized, and their higher wage scale directly benefited the wages of many non-union jobs. Otherwise the robber barons would have returned after Roosevelt.)
Whoops! Are those robber barons already back on Wall Street with their $10+++ million paychecks while average working family income declines? And working families bail them out when they fail?
Oh yeah, there's Meg again: on Goldman Sachs' compensation committee, was that before or after that settlement with the SEC for illegal activity?
Tell us Meg, how you so want to help working families, like nurses...
Posted by R.Gordon, a resident of another community, on Jul 15, 2010 at 5:26 pm
If Meg Whitman got ill, she would go to the Mayo Clinic.
If they ruin her garden, she sees herself in a more modest Governor's mansion.
If you really think California has a chance without a middle class, then you are kidding yourselves.
If you think a person who spends a $100 million to be a Republican governor is rational, then you deserve her, and she can still have blinis with caviar and champagne and not care if we have girl scouts working in hospitals....if we have any hospitals or doctors who are halfway decent and nurses who speak English.
Posted by resident, a resident of another community, on Jul 15, 2010 at 6:22 pm
I heard in the news that, Jerry Brown saying that his campain is backed by' UNIONS'.Meg is going to win. Cali.will prosper under her leadership.I hope all unions will not forget to thank her that time.
Posted by POGO, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 15, 2010 at 8:50 pm
The current carping about a candidate's lack experience or ability to spend their own money is directly related to the poster's political persuation.
I'll stipulate that Meg Whitman has no political experience and is trying to buy the governorship. But in 2004, John Corzine bought the New Jersey governership and Al Franken didn't have a lick of political experience when he ran for Senate in 2008.
So what? Am I supposed to be surprised that politicians are rich and egotistical?
Posted by A non moose, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 16, 2010 at 3:56 pm
This question? "all the politicians were unproven outsiders first time and by electing we gave them an opportunity .so why you are concern about Meg Whitman?"
Sure, all started somewhere, usually city council, alderman, etc..
But start as a governor? Really? How'd that work out with Arnold? Arguably, it's less damaging to start out as senator over governor. But even then: ask Pogo how he likes Frankin.
Other than that, why do I have concerns about Meg's hiding from everyone? Let's try a couple things.
She's a bully, until she tells us otherwise(look up her assault on her female employee, paid a quarter million to shut her up, mere chump change for Meg)
She had to settle with the SEC on some charges related to her time at Goldman Sachs, on the compensation committee.
She is trying to buy the election without the normal discourse that shows Californian who the candidates are. Why not ten debates? five?
She claims she will bring jobs, but her record is creating more jobs overseas, and then use the HB-1 visas to give jobs to foreigners rather than pay a Californian a decent living wage. That's the one that gets me. Taking away jobs from Americans just to be a bit more profitable?
The first billion wasn't enough? Okay, whatever, that's ABSOLUTELY her right.
But the hypocrisy in then telling us she should be governor because her business experience created jobs?
Let's see, what else? Politicians release tax returns. Even Cheney did. Seen Meg's?
What else? In today's paper, it says she flip-flopped on the tea-baggers on immagration, printing an op-ed in a spanish paper kow-towing to Latinos after hiring Pete "187" Wilson.
Maybe she thought the fringe doesn't read.
Spanish, I mean.
So she dated the tea-baggers, flip-flopped and is moving to the middle, all without participating in the usual discourse that let's us evaluate the individual.
We see in her glossy that she wants to eliminate state cap gains taxes. Come talk to us, Meg. Tell us how that balances the budget!
Eliminating taxes at this point? Release yours, Meg.
Come talk to us.
We don't want another Arnold.
Oh, one last thing. She supported Boxer, didn't she? Donated to her? One thing is clear: she probably didn't vote her.
Posted by POGO, a resident of the Woodside: other neighborhood, on Jul 16, 2010 at 7:26 pm
With regard to governors, A non moose writes "Sure, all started somewhere, usually city council, alderman, etc.. But start as a governor? Really?" With that logic, I assume you would find Sarah Palin qualified? For what it's worth, I don't.
We don't get to pick anyone we want. Elections are about a choice (usually) between two people.
This election is about two highly flawed and very talented individuals - Whitman and Brown. As usual, voters will select the least offensive.