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San Mateo County is being sued, this could have easily been avoided.

Original post made by Michael G. Stogner on Apr 15, 2011


Mark Church, Rose Gibson, Carole Groom, Rich Gordon, Adreinne Tissier
were advised by the 2008-09 Grand Jury that Supervisors should be elected by district. The Charter Review Committee whose members were heavily influenced. They advised the Supervisors to let the voters decide this issue. Its that simple. Had Mark, Rose, Carole, Rich and Adrienne put this on the ballot there would be no lawsuit. The fact that the issue was not put before the voters had the effect of not only depriving the electorate of weighing in on this issue, it exposed the County and taxpayers to the expenditure of millions of dollars in the defense of this action. This expense will have been incurred with complete, prior knowledge on the part of these five individuals.

I attended at least 6 of the CRC meetings, and personally heard a rep. (of the group who is now suing) politely encourage the district election over at large with a declaration of intent to sue if that did not happen.

The Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights sent then-president Rich Gordon a letter urging the board to change its policy and promising legal action if it didn't comply.

Modesto challenged one lawsuit, it ultimately failed, costing that city $3 million in legal fees.

What a shame that these 5 individuals chose to cost the Taxpayers of San Mateo County so much money.

Wake up San Mateo County

Comments (14)

Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Apr 15, 2011 at 11:42 am

Is it arrogance or cluelessness that has prompted the Supervisors to act as they have on this issue?

Posted by Dave Boyce, Almanac staff writer
on Apr 15, 2011 at 1:50 pm

Dave Boyce is a registered user.

For the record, in the decision to deny San Mateo County voters a referendum on whether the county should have at-large or by-district elections for supervisors, the Board of Supervisors voted 4-1, with then-Supervisor Rich Gordon dissenting.

Posted by Robert, a resident of another community
on Apr 15, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Another bad decision by the BOS. They should have listened to Supervisor Gordon and the Charter Review Committee, which they appointed. The voters really needed to be given the opportunity to vote on this important issue. Taking the right away from the voters was the wrong thing to do. Many potential Supervisor candidates will be wronged by this terrible decision by our Supervisor's. If the judgement in this case is not favorable to the County, the funds should be deducted from the BOS Departmental budget. Maybe that will teach them a lesson, but probably not?

Posted by Joe, a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Apr 15, 2011 at 3:39 pm

Another example of why Stogner is the man for the job.

Posted by Joe, a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Apr 15, 2011 at 3:49 pm

I don't mean to be difficult, but I've been Joe of Allied Arts for a long, long time, and I didn't say the above.

Not that I'm against Michael Stogner for supervisor, but is there another Joe in Allied Arts? Can we talk?

Posted by SMVoter, a resident of another community
on Apr 15, 2011 at 4:06 pm

Who was the Supervisor for the Half Moon Bay County which went bankrupt and lost its police force?
Were people able to vote what districts they want which Supervisors to represent?
Apart from only accusing people and bringing up past events, this all looks like a campaign message for voters and Michael Stogner.
I read the ballot and I am unimpressed especially reading the above.
It is meaningless after the fact.
If we are nothing but a county of lawsuits and litigation, why is the President spending so much time with people of major importance.
But, not for San Mateo County which always has a place for the guilty who served under the worse circumstances and lawsuits locally?

Posted by Huh?, a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 15, 2011 at 9:05 pm

[Post removed; poster using different names on same thread.]

Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Apr 15, 2011 at 9:12 pm

"Michael Stogner makes his positions clear. His tell it like it is style is unfamiliar to politicians. "

This is exactly why we need to elect Stogner to the Board of Supervisors. He is NOT a politician. He has NOT been bought by the unions.

Posted by SMVoter, a resident of another community
on Apr 16, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Well, thanks Mr. Carpenter. That sure does clear everything up.

Don't others besides Unions "buy up candidates?"...Were any of the elected Supervisors (now seated) bought up by Unions to get their positions or did also tell is like it is (was)?

Mr. Stogner appears to have a lot of friends online. The job has a lot of perks if you do know the right people...or COULD.

Posted by Moving up in the world, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 16, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Michael you are clearly moving up in the world. They used to say don't vote for Stogner because he isn't a "major" candidate and doesn't have supporters. Now SMVoter's comment has marked a real turning point in which a theory is being advanced that people shouldn't vote for you because you have too many supporters!

Yes, Stogner is making some people nervous. Exactly why we need him for supervisor.

Posted by SMVoter, a resident of another community
on Apr 17, 2011 at 11:30 am

The Moving up in the World person offers some pithy campaign slogan.

"If you are popular, you are the one we should elect."

If I mentioned leaders in small communities both here and the world who got even the masses behind them because they were pretty slick and "made a LOT of people nervous", I would be cut off for speaking for a lot of people who are not on your team.
I could use famous initials as examples of people like Moving's pal,
but it would be considered bad taste.
And, nobody on the Peninsula likes bad taste.We are above it, or strive to be having been tutored primarily in an Age of Innocence.
I'll take blunt. Why is Stogner so great?

Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Apr 17, 2011 at 11:53 am

SMVoter asks,
"Who was the Supervisor for the Half Moon Bay County which went bankrupt and lost its police force?"

There is no Half Moon Bay County, There is Half Moon Bay, in San Mateo County.

2nd part Rich Gordon was Supervisor when Half Moon Bay went bankrupt, (note Supervisors had nothing to do with that.)

3rd part Don Horsley is Supervisor now when Sheriff's Department is taking over police.

Posted by Initiation, a resident of another community
on Apr 17, 2011 at 7:40 pm

How tough would it be to get a County initiative to replace the at-large Supervisor elections with true district voting? Like how many signatures are needed, and how much of a cushion would be good to secure against invalid ones? I know it's a different scale, but the MP Measure L process didn't seem like it was THAT hard, given motivated volunteers.

Also, what would be involved in adding more districts? 5 just seems too small for a county of this size....

Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Jun 22, 2012 at 9:26 am

Baby steps. " Recent developments make additional discussion and consideration of this issue by the current Board of Supervisors appropriate."

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