Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community, on Feb 16, 2012 at 6:17 pm
"But Councilwoman Kathy McKeithen was clearly uncomfortable with the idea of destroying the records, especially when Chief Flint, responding to her questions, said that some of the records involved officers still on the force, and that storage space for the records wasn't a problem."
Since storage space isn't a problem, destroying 10 five-year-old cases involving citizen complaints or questionable behavior by officers that led to investigations, should be the last thing Chief Flint is interested in doing.
Transparency is the way to go.............good meeting
Posted by Nothing ever enough, a resident of the Atherton: other neighborhood, on Feb 17, 2012 at 8:43 am
This shows nothing will ever be enough for Kathy McKeithen or John Buckheit. Even when they admit Ed Flint has made some really bad moves in the police department that they like, because of their vendetta against it, they still complain and want trivial complaints around forever. This isn't transparency, it's a vendetta.
Posted by Tim Wulff, a resident of another community, on Feb 17, 2012 at 10:26 am
I wish there were more people like resident.
The issue has always been empowered citizen oversight of the Police Department.
The only people who look into their affairs are carefully selected members of their club, such as the Oakland officer, when Oakland PD is being looked at very hard by FBI and there is talk of direct intervention.
FBI has its eye on things here too, and there may yet remain an open investigation file on Dean, mightn't there.
Maybe the Council and the Citizenry will embrace their fear, move through the intimidating comments and actions and finally begin to do what is clearly necessary here, i.e. begin to truly work together with the force in openness, cooperation and true mutual respect. Officers are just people too, and so many are very good people. The real issue is the need for oversight, openness and recognition of the rights of and need for an empowered citizenry involved law enforcement affairs.
Posted by Big news, a resident of the Atherton: other neighborhood, on Feb 18, 2012 at 11:06 am
The big news here is that even after the recent "retirement" of one problem officer and the demotion of the problematic dispatch supervisor, Flint still acknowledges there are "problematic" officers in the APD.
Posted by Doug, a resident of another community, on Feb 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Did no one pay attention to the fact that, in her own words at the council meeting, Kathy McKeithen stated that she got her ideas re retention of police records from watching "Law & Order?" Is this how our leaders develop realistic policies?
Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community, on Feb 24, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Doug, asks "Is this how our leaders develop realistic policies?"
There is a big difference between ideas and policies, according to you she got her ideas re:retention of police records from Law & Order.
Another idea she had was to ask a great question of Police Chief Ed. Flint, Is this a space issue for Atherton, How much space is required to maintain these records. The good news is it was not a space issue at all.
Posted by Tim Wulff, a resident of another community, on Feb 25, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Reasonable people do not throw out generalized accusations of corruption, so I agree with your comment resisting such characterization.
However, it is unclear what you mean by 'the entire process'. Could you clarify?
Also, is it not equally invalid through non-specific overstatement to characterize your opponent as 'deaf and blind'? Seems vague and imprecise and carries with it the sense of a rude tone.
Isn't it true also, that given the history of the department over the last 8 - 10 years, that such a request is at best imprudent given the environment? and in terms of public opinion, clearly 'sends the wrong message to the public' regarding the intention of the department to be exposed and culpable to those who employ them, i.e. The Citizens.
My best to you. And keep pluggin'. Its clear where your allegiances lie. And that does not appear to be with the interests of citizen empowerment and oversight of this department.