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Still a boondoggle. It will always require substantial subsidies from an already broke state. If Caltrain ridership is marginal, why would this be much different. I don't plan to use it.
Disappointed that Mr. Gordon voted in favor of it given that Palo Alto, Menlo Park and Atherton don't favor it. But I guess he joined his fellow democrats.
Rich Gordon is bought and paid for by the labor unions. that's why he voted for it. That's why all of those that voted for it did so.
This project will never be built - the only question is how much will be wasted on consultants and lobbyists before it dies.
At this point at least $7.9 billion will be pissed away before it dies.
This is a terrible misuse of taxpayer money. There is a huge difference between the need for local area commute service & long-distance transit to major cities, which is what high-speed is supposed to be about.
The construction crews in the central valley will go mainly to undocumented non-citizens.
I will actively campaign against any legislators who supported this. Very disappointing that Gordon & Hill sold out on this. Eshoo has had her last vote from me.
This is senate 3rd reading vote 15 to 27 for HSR, July 5th. Rich Gordon and Jerry Hill in favor.
We can't pay the bills we already have, let alone this ever-ballooning fiasco. There is only one way to make sure the ridiculous waste stops now. Write, call or email Senator Joe Simitian. And be sure NOT to vote for Rich Gordon and Jerry Hill.
GLAD IT PASSED. Hope it passes the Assembly too.
This website isn't representative, hope it passes this last hurdle.
THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
AND REFRESHING TO READ THAT AT LEAST SOMEONE IS SPEAKING OUT ABOUT!
(Thank you, Shannon)!
"Shannon Grove, R-Bakersfield, said the legislators "lied to the voters," who approved a $9.95 billion bond for high-speed rail in 2008. At that time, the project's estimated price tag was less than $40 billion. Today, it stands at about $68 billion.
"You lied, and the voters know it," Grove said. "I hope you'll give the voters an opportunity to re-approve this disastrous project when they were lied to in the beginning."
Now, WHAT CAN WE DO TO FORCE THE LIARS TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION? Everyone who has commented here so far are absolutely right! What can we do to fix this? I would think that the lies and all of the deception would be not only unjust, but punishable!!!!! Again, I will ask the same question.....Has anyone else seen the EMPTY trains? They are this way EACH & EVERY DAY!! All the money in the world WILL NOT increase ridership! Come on people, let's face the truth and be done wit this selfish, greedy & 100% political "wolf in sheeps clothing" boondoggle!
WHAT CAN WE DO TO FORCE THE LIARS TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION?
Ummm, start with yer caps lock?
Build it. America needs to get back to advanced infrastructure and leading the way.
Historically, California has always led the way for America.
HSR approved...What a mess.....Web Link
For all of you who favor this project, can we send you the bills when it runs WAY over budget?
No project in this state, in the last 25+ years, has run on time and on budget and not have to be substantially subsidized.
All in a state that has no money.
Just another stab in the back to the youth of California. The burdens that are being foisted on them are outrageous.
Don't see folks whining about the billions pissed away on widening 101.. Almost as expensive per mile to widen as per mile of 68B$ HSR. Hypocrites !
you need to do your homework. the widening of 101 is nowhere near the cost per mile of HSR.
This is just disgusting. I am disappointed but not surprised that Gordon voted in favor. Now, will there be anyone to challenge him? Or, are we too beholden to unions and political hacks in this town?
Sen. Joe Simitian got it right and voted NO.
"One dissenter, Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, said public support had waned for the project, and there were too many questions about financing to complete it.
"Is there additional commitment of federal funds? There is not. Is there additional commitment of private funding? There is not. Is there a dedicated funding source that we can look to in the coming years? There is not," Simitian said."
Wrong Bob. Menlo Park DID approve of HSR.
Right you are, Belle Palm. California set the standard of going broke, yet still trying to spend money they don't have, and mortgaging our grandchildren's future, and the good old USA followed suit. Time for you and Jerry Hill and Rich Gordon and their colleagues to look in the mirror to find the cause of our doomed economy. You 3 stooges seem to be part of the very few people who still think this is a good idea. Good for Shannon Grove and Jioe Simitian for speaking up. I know where my votes will go, and where they will not.
Very well put: Amen!
CA will continue to be in a financial mess until we stop voting for fiscally irresponsible people regardless of their party. But I don't see that happening any time soon.
If you were a family spending more than you have coming in, pretty soon the debt collectors are going to be knocking on your door.
Bottom line -- you should NOT spend more than you make; it always leads to trouble. The HSR decision is as much about finance as it is about transportation.
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