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Can 'green' Portola Valley coexist with artificial grass?

Original post made on May 7, 2013

In a town whose general plan puts determined and repeated emphasis on preserving the natural environment and the town's rural character, is there room in that vision for a playing field covered in artificial grass? That's the question facing the Portola Valley Town Council on Wednesday, May 8.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 8:33 AM

Comments (12)

Posted by john, a resident of Woodside: other
on May 7, 2013 at 12:30 pm

With an area of some 6400 acres, this proposed field of 2.5 acres is some 00.039% of the area of the Town of Portola Valley. It allows the kids from Town to play soccer for many months of the year when the field would otherwise be closed. PV won't lose it's rural character, and this teeeeeny amount of land won't have a material impact on PV wildlife. Thank you Priory for offering to pay this additional cost, to allow the local kids extended playing/practice seasons.


Posted by Gopher Gary, a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on May 7, 2013 at 12:46 pm

No water wasted.
No herbicides.
No pesticides.
No gas powered mowers.
No broken ankles from gopher holes.

"Can 'green' Portola Valley coexist with artificial grass?"

Seems like an obvious answer!


Posted by SteveC, a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on May 7, 2013 at 1:20 pm

SteveC is a registered user.

I though the issue was resolved and the project approved by the town. Am I mistaken???


Posted by Pv, a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on May 8, 2013 at 9:20 am

When Bill Lane is looking down on Portola Valley, I don't think he imagined that he would ever see a big piece of plastic in the middle of our town. I don't really want to see it on my daily hikes when I look down from Windy Hill either. If you want plastic, go east of 280, they have plenty there. Let's stick with the rural character that defines Portola Valley.


Posted by Icon Theft, a resident of Portola Valley: other
on May 8, 2013 at 9:53 am

Obstructing the po' widdle view from up on Windy Hill?

So do buildings. And roads scar the landscape, too, so pull them all down, also! On top of that, hijack the memory of a dead guy (who donated a ton o' cash to build things in Stanford made of wood, plastic and concrete that you can also view from the top of Windy Hill) and claim him to be on 'your' side.

Turf saves water. Cheaper to maintain. Allows more use and higher capacity. No pesticides and fertilizer. Safer surface for kids and adults.

Fight facts with facts, please.

If you have any.

But hey, job well done in hijacking the dead guy -- heck, I almost forgot: Ronald Reagan (Bill's old boss) wants to endorse turf!


Posted by PV Resident, a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on May 8, 2013 at 10:40 am

To Icon Theft: Why do you have to be so mean in your reply? People can have differing views and judge things on different criteria. If that person feels like a view is important, who are you to say otherwise -- and why do you have post something that reads so disrespectfully? Be nice.


Posted by Chef d'Equipe, a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on May 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm

What is least desirable? One writer has a perceived mean 'tone' while another is apparently selfish of his/her view during a daily walk. Clearly, I know with which one I rather hike, although the other is fact-driven.


Posted by PV Resident, a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on May 8, 2013 at 3:30 pm

I think it is probably safe to assume that the majority of the people who support the turf field are families of students or alumni of Priory and that those opposing have a more naturalistic bent to their views. The interesting question that no one has raised yet is if the town makes an exception to Priory and allows the turf, will they be so lenient when homeowners want something as well... say a larger deck, a larger basement, a tennis or basketball court etc? For a town that has so much of its reputation caught up in being green and encouraging green policies and codes for building, this provides an interesting dilemma. What a hot seat town officials will be in when an individual homeowner wants to do something on their personal property that has a similar dilemma. After all, isn't one of the many arguments being used in favor of Priory getting their turf is that it is their property and they can do what they want to on it?


Posted by Sammy the Sophist, a resident of Woodside: other
on May 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm

Nicely done, PV resident -- a classic 'slippery slope' informal fallacy argument!

Along the lines of: "if they check gun purchases to keep criminals and the insane from buying, it's a slippery slope to a gun registry, then the movie 'Red Dawn' becomes true with the Commie Ruskies invading, and taking away all the (registered) guns."

If we let Priory do (arguably) the correct action, it's the camel nose under the tent, and pretty soon, there will be skyscrapers in downtown PV. Beware the slippery slope. Who knows where it will stop!

The other fallacy above is also clever; the insincere sophistry of bringing deceased persons into the argument.


Posted by Marie, a resident of Portola Valley: other
on May 8, 2013 at 9:40 pm

Just a thought. I heard that artificial turf gets hot on sunny days. If true, then what's that like to play on?


Posted by Hot Potato, a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on May 8, 2013 at 11:19 pm

Marie: yes, on a really hot day, it will feel warmer than grass.

I haven't looked it up, check on how many 90+ degree days they have in PV, for me, will ya? (ie.. this ain't Phoenix, Texas or Alabama!)


Posted by Ref, a resident of Portola Valley: other
on May 9, 2013 at 9:51 am

I'm a youth soccer referee. There are plenty of artificial turf soccer fields all over the Peninsula, including west of 280 (have you seen the beautiful fields at Half Moon Bay HS and the brand, spanking new ones at Cunha Middle School in HMB?) From your vista on Windy hill, you will not be able to tell that it is turf, if you can see it at all. From my experience a variety of youth soccer groups play at Priory, including AYSO. Turf fields require no water, don't have to be re-striped, no need to apply pesticides or contend with gophers. Soccer is a great activity for area youth and having state-of the-art turf fields are just as "green", if not greener, than a high maintenance grass field. IMHO


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