BART vs. Dumbarton Rail debate gets testy
Original post made on Jul 30, 2008
Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 11:16 PM
on Jul 30, 2008 at 9:20 am
Don't you love it when the transit operators fight over a "fistful of dollars" when in fact they can't afford to build anything?
Go get'em BART. Go get'em Dumbarton. "I want the $91 million." "No, I want the $91 million; I need it more."
Kids, why won't they ever learn?
You see, the problem is much more complicated. First of all, most of the transit operators, as the Almanac Editorial and Rory Brown's article points out, are busy fighting for too few dollars to meet the needs of their expansionist agendas.
You should ask why they want to expand. What's the point? None of them understand what business they are in. They think they are in the railroad business; laying more track, electrifying, expanding. They don't realize that they should be in the people moving business, the transit business. Furthermore, they think they can go it alone, and indeed they are all highly competitive.
How stupid. As the Almanac has taken great pains to point out, they should be collaborating, working together synergistically and becoming the components of one integrated system of urban and regional transit. They should be multi-modal, not rail obsessed. It's not about the trains, you guys. It's about the best ways to move people around the Bay Area.
And, by the way, the Dumbarton task force (Caltrain in disguise) says that to get their train line across the Bay will cost $600 million. With or without the $91 million, they don't have $600 million.
But, here's the more important point. They will discover (if they don't already know or just won't tell us) that the remains of the train trestle across the Bay can't be used because what's left of it is not earthquake resistant enough for today's standards. Oops.
The High-Speed rail authority apparently knows this and in anticipating the Altamont option for their route into the Bay Area, they planned for several versions of a new bridge. You can read about it in their EIR/EIS. That new bridge would cost over $1 billion and more like $2 billion.
on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:21 am
Dumbarton Rail makes no sense. The need for better transit in this corridor would be better served by Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) and HOV improvements. If BART needs the extra money, going after this $91 million makes perfect sense.
on Jul 30, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Trains are dangerous just today train hit pedestrians again. BART has
right of ways built in which makes it vastly superior to trains (and
major reason its more expensive), BART is also already electrified,
goes to all major airports, sports stadiums, etc. BART would
encourage Bay Area growth and business and higher density instead
of encouraging people to commute from the farm fields of Turlock. By
supporting BART to major cities including SJ would encourage its use
to SJ Sharks games, SJ Performing Arts, SJ covention center, SJ
business, etc. A train connection is less likely to be used.
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