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A few bumps as Marsh Road closure begins

 

Police say there were a few start-up problems as Atherton began a planned 10-week closure of Marsh Road on Tuesday (May 31) as the town rebuilds a drainage culvert, but they expect motorists will soon realize they need to follow detours or avoid the area.

Atherton police say they did not issue any citations related to the Marsh Road closure on Tuesday. Sgt. Anthony Kockler said there was a report of road rage near Menlo-Atherton High School and some neighbors complained of cars cutting through their neighborhoods instead of using the suggested detours leading to Woodside Road and 5th Avenue in Redwood City or Willow Road in Menlo Park.

"We would really appreciate if they would follow those detour routes that have been set," Sgt. Kockler said.

He said motorists who ignore signs warning of no through traffic can be cited for disobeying traffic signs if they cut through on posted streets.

Flaggers were stationed in a couple of locations off Marsh Road to turn back drivers who did not have a placard showing they were local residents or their guests.

"I think it's going to take a couple of days for people to get used to it," Sgt. Kockler said.

Atherton's traffic officers "will be out there as much as possible," he said, working on "education and enforcement." So far, he said, they have given only warnings.

"The first couple days are pretty rough, and then people get the message, 'I can't go that way, I'm going to have to go another way,' " he said.

Not driving through the nearby neighborhoods is a good idea for more than avoiding irritating the residents, he said, noting that on the major streets, there is less chance of a collision and of getting lost.

Many of the local nearby streets also have traffic-calming measures, or even barriers, to slow down traffic. "There's kids (who) play out there; there's people backing out of driveways," he said.

The Atherton Police Department is getting some help for the first week of the closure from the California Highway Patrol, he said.

His advice for the public: "Follow the detour routes - expect delays."

Or they could do what he's doing for his commute to work in Atherton – take Interstate 280 instead of 101 and avoid the mess altogether.

See a related story about the project.

Comments

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Posted by Sarah Shenk
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 3:51 pm

The detour along Bay Road btw Marsh and Willow is inadequately planned for. Regardless of school being in session, stop signs do not effectively decompress nor manage the increased traffic thru this already congested chute. Additional signaling needs to be put in place at the intersection of Bay / Ringwood and Ringwood/Coleman for this to work for the duration of the project.

Both Menlo Park and Atherton councils and commissions should have effectively accounted for this.

I hope change will be implemented and solve for this immediately. The current situation is not sustainable.


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Posted by Jill
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 1, 2016 at 4:26 pm

It took me almost half an hour to get from M-A to 101 this morning starting at 8:40 am. The traffic both directions on Ringwood was crazy. When I finally got to the intersection at Bay, three cops were sitting there observing. If they would only stop certain directions and waive one direction through, I am convinced it would have taken half the time. Four way stops with that level of traffic make no sense.


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Posted by Mr. Detour
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 5:08 pm

Oh, so they don't want us to drive through Lindenwood because they're concerned about us "getting lost?" Here I was thinking that the residents of Atherton simply didn't want to shoulder ANY of the detour traffic for a project done within their city.

This is ridiculous. Closing Marsh puts tremendous pressure on Ringwood and Bay Roads. Cutting off access to Lindenwood makes it even worse. I happen to live in Suburban Park and we are getting absolutely SHAFTED in this set up. Imagine trying to get a child to Encinal School in the morning. I'm supposed to drive south on Bay Road then west on Willow Road and then all the way back north on Middlefield? All of this, so that the site of my car doesn't burden the good people of Lindenwood? Does that seem fair?


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 7:19 pm

How can you legally keep a car off a road built with tax payer money? This does not make sense to me! The article says you may receive a ticket for using a particular road. I would like to know if this is even a punishable violation. People that live in the affected area all use roads that are now closed to thru traffic to get to their destinations creating a larger problem.


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Posted by Public access
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 1, 2016 at 7:33 pm

Exactly what law prohibits drivers from accessing public roads? What is the infraction? If it exists, can I use this law to keep Atherton residents out of my neighborhood? Unbelievable.


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Posted by HelloHanalei
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 9:02 pm

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As others have pointed out, how can a public road, paid for and maintained with ALL of our tax dollars, be blocked off to local traffic? Lindenwood doesn't want people driving through their leafy enclave? Well, too bad!! We don't want to be trapped in our neighborhoods, either, nor do we want to sit in bumper-to-bumper traffic on Bay Road for 20-30 minutes just to get our kids to school, or go downtown to do our grocery shopping. This project was initiated by Atherton, and a fair share of the inconvenience and aggravation needs to be shouldered by Atherton. It's outrageous that Atherton wants to close off Lindenwood, which provides one of the few routes to Middlefield Road, El Camino Real, and downtown Menlo Park for neighborhoods bordering Bay Road, and treat it as a private little fiefdom. Why on earth should Redwood City and Menlo Park residents suffer all of the ill effects of this project, while Atherton residents are essentially unaffected? And I saw today that Glenwood Avenue is signed as a no-through-traffic street. Whaaaattttt??? Since when are we not allowed to drive down Glenwood to get from East Menlo to West Menlo? Anyone who thinks it makes a single bit of sense to dump all of the traffic from Marsh Road onto Bay Road, Ringwood Avenue, and Willow Road (which was a nightmare *before* Marsh was closed) is insane. This project has been so bungled, and so mismanaged, that it's really quite astounding.


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Posted by peninsula resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 1, 2016 at 10:09 pm

To "Mr. Detour", "Mary", "Public access", and "HelloHanalei", whom I will assume for the sake of argument that you are each different people...though...hmmmmm....

Do you have similar disdain for unincorporated San Mateo County? (aka North Fair Oaks)? That's restricted, too. The goal is to avoid having people speeding through residential areas and keep people in commute corridors.


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Posted by Public access
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 1, 2016 at 10:21 pm

I have the utmost respect for all neighborhoods, don't speed, obey the laws. If the goal is to keep people on commute roads, then why not barricade all other residential streets all the time? We have kids playing and people backing out of driveways too.

Meanwhile, guess I will tell the kids that they can't have playdates in Lindenwood, nor can I stop by a friend's house, and guess that Lindenwood parents will have to start doing all the carpool driving since the hoi polloi won't be allowed on their streets.


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Posted by HelloHanalei
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 10:28 pm

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Peninsula Resident, I can assure you we're not the same person. Believe it or not, more than 1 person in Suburban Park and adjacent neighborhoods is infuriated by this situation. And no; I don't hold unincorporated San Mateo County in disdain. Those of us who need to get to downtown MP, Encinal, and Hillview wouldn't drive through unincorporated SMC, but being able to travel through Lindenwood would enable us to get to our destinations without going miles out of our way. Moreover, unincorporated SMC didn't initiate this project; Atherton did. So for Atherton to divert all of the Marsh Road traffic onto Menlo Park streets, while prohibiting Menlo Park residents from using Atherton streets, is outrageous. And btw, I drive just as carefully through Lindenwood and unincorporated SMC neighborhoods as I do through my own.


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Posted by Mr. Detour
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 10:44 pm

Yes, we are definitely different people but with the same problem. No I don't hold disdain for North Fair Oaks, but it sure will be challenging to get over to the Riekes Center for no logical reason. The "speeding" excuse is silly. All roads have speed limits and drivers who speed should be ticketed. For all the police being deployed for this, catching speeders would seem to be a better plan. Those who obey the laws should be able to use the public streets for their intended purpose. I just don't see why we took a bad situation and delberately made it worse for no logical reason.


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Posted by StopAndGo
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 1, 2016 at 10:58 pm

Peninsula Resident, so Bay Road is commute corridors while Lindenwood is residential. To me Bay Road is my residential neighborhood road and I regard it the same way as you seem to regard Lindenwood. It it the only road which will access my house and neighborhood. I have no options when Bay Road is backed between Marsh and Willow. I understand that others outside of my neighborhood (even from Atherton) need to use the road to get where they are going. I have been always taught that good neighbors share.


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Posted by Safe Neighborhoods?
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jun 2, 2016 at 10:39 am

Why are there no traffic signs that tell motorist to avoid residential areas in Linfield Oaks neighborhood??? Are some neighborhoods "more worthy" of not having traffic threaten their peace and safety?
Maybe there should be more traffic police at vulnerable and/or high traffic intersections, e.g., Middlefield and Ringwood, Middlefield and Ravenswood, Middlefield and Willow, etc? It was terrible out there last night,


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Posted by peninsula resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 2, 2016 at 10:39 am

I wrote:
> Do you have similar disdain for unincorporated San Mateo County? ... That's restricted, too.

Mr. Detour replied:
> No I don't hold disdain for North Fair Oaks

Interesting.

Google maps shows that going through NFO to get from Suburban Park to Encinal Elementary (which was used as an example in a previous post) takes just as long as a route through Lindenwood and is actually slightly shorter. Observe: Web Link

Don't you think it's just a tad inconsistent to bellyache about Lindenwood when North Fair Oaks has similar traffic restrictions, and is actually a shorter route for most residents of Flood Triangle?


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Posted by Public Roads
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 am

1) The North Fair Oaks restrictions are 'guidelines' and via traffic blocking measures that apply to ALL citizens equally not differently depending on where your home address is. Many community have 'local traffic only' restrictions to encourage traffic on arterial roads. However, these are not enforced with permits issues to residents. Rather by observation of origin/destination in the neighborhood.

2) Atherton is AT BEST being a poor community citizen here. ZERO impact on Atherton streets other than Middlefield for a project in the city of Atherton. If we want to play 'not in my town' I suggest MP, RWC and EPA immediately enact emergency legislation prohibiting traffic from Atherton to enter without a permit. Oh, that sounds unreasonable? Really? How is it different? We don't want Atherton traffic speeding on our delicate residential streets.


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Posted by Public Roads
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jun 2, 2016 at 10:58 am

Also, another commenter brings up a major issue: Why are there police at intersections on the diversion and NOT directing traffic?

@MPPD @APD@SanMateoSherriff Please staff intersections during peak hours and direct traffic. This is a much higher value to the citizens than threatening enforcement of marginally legal local restrictions


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Posted by Mr. Detour
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 2, 2016 at 11:29 am

peninsula resident wrote:

>Don't you think it's just a tad inconsistent to bellyache about Lindenwood when >North Fair Oaks has similar traffic restrictions, and is actually a shorter route >for most residents of Flood Triangle?

North Fair Oaks didn't initiate this project, and I believe restricting access to their neighborhood is merely a way to make it appear equitable, just as "no through traffic" signs have been placed in the loop neighborhood of Suburban Park. There's no "through" to go through there, but it sure looks like we're all equal.

Whenever there's been a problem on Marsh Road in the past, police immediately have routed traffic through NFO. I used to live on 15th avenue, and didn't like to see the additional traffic coming by my house when it happened, but I recognized that it was necessary. Would be nice if the load was being shared a bit more than it currently is being shared.


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Posted by Peninsula Resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 2, 2016 at 11:38 am

> The North Fair Oaks restrictions are 'guidelines'

Not according to another almanacnews article:
"A number of local nearby streets in Atherton and North Fair Oaks will be limited to local use only to deter cut-through traffic. Residents have been given placards to display on their cars and for the use of their visitors."

Source: Web Link


IMHO, either all near-marsh residential neighborhoods should have traffic calming in place, or none. While I happen to think the traffic calming and restrictions have merit, I see the other point of view. What I don't agree with is your insistence that other neighborhoods should have traffic calming, but Lindenwood should not, even though the other neighborhoods would be just-as-fast a detour and in many cases faster and/or shorter.

So until you are ethically consistent, I am NOT sympathetic.


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Posted by MP parent
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Jun 2, 2016 at 11:59 am

If there are placards, seems to me that all of the neighborhoods should have "local traffic" placards, not just NFO/Lindenwood. Otherwise people can no longer take their usual or even their backup routes for going to school, etc.

Lots of folks are frustrated. Most important, please let's all drive safely. There will be lots of kids (and adults too) walking on Ringwood and nearby streets this afternoon to get to M-A (graduation) and Laurel (music performance and art show), cars parked everywhere and no sidewalks.

Please stay safe!


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Posted by Public access
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 2, 2016 at 12:38 pm

"Ethically consistent"???

No other neighborhood has cops stationed at its entry points. Only Lindenwood. Why do they deserve to be exempt from cut-through traffic when the rest of us must deal with it every day? How is that "ethical?"


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Posted by Peninsula Resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 2, 2016 at 1:05 pm

> Why do they deserve to be exempt from cut-through traffic when the rest of us must deal with it

Again, NFO is exempt from cut-through traffic, both the almanac news articles and the detour routes make it clear that is the case. Yet you have no problem with that restriction.

I don't agree with your insistence that other neighborhoods should have traffic calming, but Lindenwood should not, even though the other neighborhoods would be just-as-fast a detour and in many cases faster and/or shorter.

Either nearby neighborhoods should have traffic calming, or none. Your insistence that it's OK for all neighborhoods except Lindenwood to have traffic calming makes you look petty. (not saying you are, but that's how it reads)


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Posted by Peninsula Resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 2, 2016 at 1:05 pm

> Why do they deserve to be exempt from cut-through traffic when the rest of us must deal with it

Again, NFO is exempt from cut-through traffic, both the almanac news articles and the detour routes make it clear that is the case. Yet you have no problem with that restriction.

I don't agree with your insistence that other neighborhoods should have traffic calming, but Lindenwood should not, even though the other neighborhoods would be just-as-fast a detour and in many cases faster and/or shorter.

Either nearby neighborhoods should have traffic calming, or none. Your insistence that it's OK for all neighborhoods except Lindenwood to have traffic calming makes you look petty. (not saying you are, but that's how it reads)


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Posted by Observer
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Jun 2, 2016 at 1:25 pm

With 10 weeks of disruption and detours to go (assuming the project ends when planned), the constructive feedback/observations contained in these comments should be brought to Atherton's attention ASAP.

Traffic should be routed/detoured in the most efficient manner possible, regardless of which neighborhood it flows through. The placard idea for an elite few seems really ill-advised and discriminatory. It's not too late for adjustments to be made.

Let's not assume those in charge are reading these articles and posts. Here is the dedicated phone number for this construction project (published in a related Almanac article): 650-847-4045


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Posted by Public access
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 2, 2016 at 1:36 pm

All neighborhoods should share the burden of cut-through traffic. Including Lindenwood. Cops should not be directing cars away from Atherton streets and into Menlo Park residential neighborhoods.

Lindenwood should not receive special privileges.

Is that clear enough?


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Posted by Stu Soffer
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jun 2, 2016 at 2:09 pm

Stu Soffer is a registered user.

A comment on the closure:

[Web Link Closing Marsh Road: The Silver Lining ]


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Posted by Hold on a minute
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Jun 3, 2016 at 2:53 pm

I attended the closure meetings.

The REASON for not allowing cut through traffic through NFO and Lindenwood is not for the convenience of the residents. Say a 70' truck was delivering to the Chavez Market in RWC. Or a large safeway truck going to MP via Marsh Road following the cars into Lindenwood via the easy route, Can you imagine him trying tuning into the NFO neighboorhood or Lindenwood? It would be a disaster. THATS why the detour keeps drivers on MAJOR streets like Bay and Ringwood and 5th Ave (BTW no one on 5th ave is complaining).

I know what you're going to say, put up no truck signs. But it just doesn't work that way, you will funnel into "traps" with one bad move.

Some people are always looking for the conspiracy of the rich against the poor, grow up. Or with all your great ideas become traffic engineer experts. sheesh

Traffic is already getting it figured out. Give it a little time.


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Posted by Observer
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Jun 3, 2016 at 4:57 pm

@ Hold on a minute

Your statements seem like a more general argument to permanently install "No Trucks" over a certain weight/height/length. If trucks in certain neighborhoods present a problem, closing (or re-opening Marsh when the work is done) won't address that "problem."

No "conspiracy" need be alleged in order for the inequity of closing public streets to some, but not "others" and forcing them to take the long and slower way around to be obvious.

Homeowners purchase homes, not the exclusive use of public streets surrounding them.


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Posted by Sub Par Res
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 3, 2016 at 6:18 pm

Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Triangle residents should get these Placards. We all live on a damn island in all of this mess.


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Posted by HelloHanalei
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 3, 2016 at 7:45 pm

HelloHanalei is a registered user.

I guess the Almanac doesn't recognize the m-dash! Let's try this again. Moderator, can you remove my above comment? Thanks.

@Hold On:

This isn't an issue of "rich" versus "poor," but of the Town of Atherton protecting its own residents ~ those living in an area whose streets could easily support local through traffic ~ at the expense of their Menlo Park neighbors. It's ludicrous that those of us who live a stone's throw from Lindenwood are expected to sit in traffic on Ringwood to get to school, downtown, etc, when we could easily turn right on Frederick or Edge and be at our destination in minutes. There's a fundamental disconnect there that has nothing to do with socioeconomics, and everything to do with political expediency and protecting ones' own.


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Posted by Observer
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Jun 3, 2016 at 8:22 pm

I believe it would be helpful for those governing Atherton to openly and honestly articulate the legal authority which apparently entitles them to favor their own residents in certain neighborhoods at the expense of others.

And -- if such authority exists -- also think about the larger implications.


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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 3, 2016 at 8:56 pm

All of this to " fix " a culvert. Not widen the road. Bureaucracy on display.


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Posted by Peninsula Resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 3, 2016 at 10:18 pm

"This isn't an issue of "rich" versus "poor," but of the Town of Atherton protecting its own residents ~ those living in an area whose streets could easily support local through traffic ~ at the expense of their Menlo Park neighbors. "

This is an utter crock.

I just drove west on Willow. Me being me, I tried to cut through the Menlo Park and Menlo Oaks(USMC) neighborhood by taking Coleman. Nope, no-can-do, it has the same "No Thru Traffic" signs as "North Fair Oaks" and "Lindenwood".

So...Lindenwood is getting no special treatment, and there's a compelling case to be made that Menlo Park and Unincorporated SMC are getting more attention than Atherton with regards to traffic calming barriers. Good lord, Menlo Oaks and the Menlo Park neighborhood between Menlo Oaks and the Willows isn't even adjacent to Marsh but it has traffic restrictions too. There are WAY more traffic restrictions on Menlo Park and Uninc. SMC streets than Atherton.

So...stop. Just stop. Stop with the Atherton and Lindenwood hate. If anyone's getting special treatment, it's Menlo Park and Unincorporated SMC. Anyone who drives down Willow knows that's true.



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Posted by Observer
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Jun 4, 2016 at 12:09 pm

Peninsula Resident states:

"I just drove west on Willow. Me being me, I tried to cut through the Menlo Park and Menlo Oaks(USMC) neighborhood by taking Coleman. Nope, no-can-do, it has the same "No Thru Traffic" signs as "North Fair Oaks" and "Lindenwood"."

If this is correct, then it highlights the additional problem that Atherton's Detour Map for this project (included in Almanac articles) is not accurate, since only North Fair Oaks and Lindenwood are labeled: "Residential Roads Closed to Through Traffic."


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 4, 2016 at 12:55 pm

Can't the city of Menlo Park block all thru traffic?

We could set up gates and have police check people's papers. If they don't live here then turn them around and deport them to wherever they drove here from. I don't understand why people from other cities can drive on our streets without our permission.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jun 4, 2016 at 2:26 pm

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It helps to be well informed:
Posted by Barbara Wood
Almanac staff writer
on Jun 3, 2016 at 10:15 am
Barbara Wood is a registered user.

Atherton's City Manager George Rodericks has posted more information about the closure, including responses to some of the problems being faced by local residents.
Web Link

Posted on: June 2, 2016
Reminder: Marsh Road Project - Road Closure - 5/31 - 8/15

Reminder: Marsh Road is closed from May 31 through August 15. Adjacent streets are closed to through traffic. These include the Atherton streets of Holbrook, Palmer, and San Benito, and County streets of Fair Oaks, Bay and 15th. Please remember to use an alternate route. Local destination users are allowed on all streets; however, through traffic/commute traffic are not. Other neighborhood streets may have signage as well. Please respect these neighborhood restrictions and be courteous as you drive these areas. Obey local stop laws and speed limits. Local law enforcement will be present at times to enforce and monitor traffic flow during the construction project. For more information about the project, visit www.ci.Atherton.ca.us/marshroad.

The Marsh Road Project involves large grading machinery, crane work, pile driving, dust, back-up horns, boring, and excavation work. This work is very loud and involves machinery that creates extended and extreme vibrations. There are residences within 30 feet of the project site and driveways immediately adjacent to the project. The project construction hours are Monday through Friday from 8 am to 8 pm and Saturday from 8 am to 5 pm. The Town investigated the possibility of over night construction but the time frame for the project would have extended beyond an acceptable timeline (Federal deadline) and the impact on residences 30 feet away for night construction for 3-4 months was determined to be too impactful. Overnight construction on freeways and off ramps is much further away from residential homes.

The immediate adjacent neighborhood of North Fair Oaks (County and Atherton) are regularly impacted by any traffic delays on Marsh Road as traffic cuts off at Fair Oaks, Bay and 15th Avenue and travels down the narrow adjacent residential streets in an attempt to bypass any traffic on Marsh Road. More than 20,000 vehicles travel along Marsh Road per day. It was determined to be too impactful to divert 20,000 vehicles from the larger collector Marsh Road to the adjacent residential streets of Holbrook, Palmer, San Benito, Fair Oaks, Bay and 15th as those streets are not designed to accommodate the impact. Therefore, the Town worked with the cities of Menlo Park, Redwood City, and the County of San Mateo to design a regional traffic diversion plan to address the impact. Residents in the North Fair Oaks area and on Marsh Road were provided with placards to allow regular access while through traffic was diverted to the larger collector routes of Ringwood, Florence, 5th, Woodside Road, Bay and Willow. The placard enforcement in the Fair Oaks neighborhoods will be constant for the first couple weeks of the project and intermittent each week thereafter with traffic counts assisting the Town with identifying where the hotspots are and where/when enforcement needs to occur. Please help by avoiding these streets.

In addition to the North Fair Oaks neighborhood(s), local traffic only signs have been placed along the entrances to Lindenwood and other areas in Atherton, Menlo Park, and the County - particularly at streets that are cut-through streets for commuters to go from Bay to Ringwood to Middlefield to El Camino Real. While there are signs up, there are no flaggers or placards being used to manage the traffic flow. Enforcement in these areas is primarily by local law enforcement for stopping and speeding. If you enter these areas you are encouraged to obey local traffic laws, stop at all stop signs, obey the speed limit and watch carefully for pedestrians. These streets are regularly used by pedestrians, cyclists, and children. Local law enforcement will not be lenient with those using these streets as cut through streets during the construction project. These streets are open to all users who have local destinations - local residences, schools, businesses, churches, etc. in Atherton and Menlo Park.

The Town encourages your patience during this extreme time. The Drainage Channel Project must be completed. Engineers determined that the channel is in such a deteriorative state that failure could occur at any time. Failure of the channel would mean a failure of the roadway itself. If that had occurred, the roadway would be closed for far longer and the impact could have been far greater. Thank you again for your patience.

I understand that the project is in Atherton and the project is an Atherton project. However, the impact of this project is regional. The Atherton roadways, Marsh Road and Middlefield Road are used by more than 20,000 cars a day. Most of those trips are regional trips. The impact of this project is regional. Every effort is being taken to address the impacts of the project. Your cooperation is appreciated. If you can avoid the area - please do so. If you cannot - please expect delay or expect to be re-routed as the situation may dictate. The traffic impact will lessen over the summer when school traffic dissipates and commute traffic learns the diversion pattern.

Feel free to email me directly with any comments, questions, or concerns. We will attempt to address any hot spots through out the impact areas. However, we will not be closing down other roadways or adding new placard systems in other areas beyond North Fair Oaks. There will be local law enforcement and other assistance as needed. Thank you for your patience.

George Rodericks
City Manager
grodericks@ci.atherton.ca.us


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Posted by Concerned Citizen
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jun 4, 2016 at 3:09 pm

We need to turn Atherton into a private community. I know this idea has been widely discussed before but it is about time we do it. This whole thing with Menlo Park is ridiculous. Just wall these people off.

Except for some main streets all other streets should be off limits to non-residents and policed heavily.

If new people want to move here then they should be forced to submit an application to the city and we the people can vote on whether we want them or not. This is the only way to preserve Atherton. More like a private gated community. Has anyone looked into this?


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Posted by VC
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Jun 4, 2016 at 3:27 pm

Concerned Citizen, I know some people who are doing something similar as to what you are proposing.

They have gotten together and are purchasing properties that go on the market and then just leaving them vacant. This decreases density, lowers traffic and improves the quality of life for everyone. They want to eventually tear down the structures on the land but haven't done that yet, might be legal hurdles.

It would be great if peninsula cities had a buy back program where the city would buy the properties that go on the market and leave them vacant. This would lower the population and solve a lot of issues.


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Posted by JBCHAM
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Jun 4, 2016 at 3:43 pm

Concerned Citizens,
Terrible idea. It smacks of elitism at its worse. I much prefer Peter Carpenter's comments.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of another community
on Jun 4, 2016 at 3:54 pm

Pretty sure this whole thing smacks of elitism. Concerned citizen is just being honest about it.


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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 4, 2016 at 7:59 pm

Yup it's a culvert repair. A hotel could be built by the private sector in the time it will take to complete this project.
And with less community interruption.

Bureaucracy at it's finest.


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Posted by HelloHanalei
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jun 4, 2016 at 9:47 pm

HelloHanalei is a registered user.

@Concerned Citizen:

On first reading your comment, I took it for Swiftian satire. On second reading, I'm afraid you're serious. This thread has officially jumped the shark.


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Posted by Whatever
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 5, 2016 at 11:31 am

to concerned citizen
Wonderful idea! But let's make sure the Athertonians create their own public schools and fire department. They'll also have to build their own retail stores, gas stations, hotels, church etc. Heck you'll have two convince CalTrain to reopen your train station, don't want your elitist citizens tainted by exposure to the riffraff at the MP station.


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Posted by Jim
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jun 5, 2016 at 12:03 pm

@whatever - if atherton becomes a private community that doesn't mean their citizens are trapped in there. They can still leave and use other cities services or invite them in when needed.

I have been living here for a long time trying to get the residentialist model to come to full fruition. We all know that the end goal is private gated community. We just need to have the guts to do it. If we were a private community we could really tighten restrictions on property use to make the perfect neighborhood. Impose as color scheme, no ugly mailboxes, no traffic, no people we didn't want.


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Posted by Peninsula Resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Jun 5, 2016 at 2:01 pm

Worst.

Thread.

Ever.

If there was ever a thread that deserved to be locked from further comment, this is it. It has devolved into pettiness from those that claim to be from Menlo Park as well as those that claim to be from Atherton.

(drops mike)


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Posted by JBCHAM
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Jun 5, 2016 at 2:43 pm

Jim "no people we didn't want"??!! I hope you are being sarcastic and not serious.


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