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Tonight: Menlo Park may take stand on Trump executive order

 

When Menlo Park's City Council meets Tuesday (March 14), it may take a stand on President Trump's Jan. 25 executive order, which states that so-called "sanctuary" jurisdictions should be denied federal grants if they "willfully violate Federal law in an attempt to shield aliens from removal from the United States."

The question before the council is whether Menlo Park should join as a "friend of the court" lawsuits brought by Santa Clara County and San Francisco challenging the executive order. So far, at least 27 people have emailed the council expressing support for this action.


Councilman Ray Mueller, who proposed that the question be put on the council's agenda, said that Menlo Park will suffer adverse effects if the threats are carried out against Santa Clara County. The county, he said, could lose as much as $1.7 billion, from one-quarter to one-third of the county's budget.

That funding goes toward infrastructure projects and social services for low-income and homeless people, he said. Without that funding, traffic and infrastructure conditions would worsen across the region, and there would be more homeless and needy people not getting help regionally.

Sanctuary cities

Definitions vary, but "sanctuary" cities or jurisdictions generally provide protections for undocumented residents. Typically, this means that police do not ask people about their immigration status or cooperate with federal immigration officials to detain people in the justice system longer than they would otherwise be kept in custody.

"Irrespective of where a person falls on the sanctuary city issue, one thing we should all be able to agree on is that local jurisdictions shouldn't be bullied into losing their infrastructure funding and funding for public services based on local control decisions," Mr. Mueller said.

Santa Clara County's Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to file a lawsuit against President Trump on Jan. 31. The deadline for other groups to submit "friend of the court" briefs is March 22.

According to Menlo Park City Attorney Bill McClure, the "friend of the court" brief is still being drafted by the law firm Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP, and is not written specifically for Menlo Park. The idea is that "multiple jurisdictions may join it," he said in an email. The document will not be made public until it is filed.

An attorney at the firm confirmed that it is working on a possible "friend of the court" brief and is doing it on a pro bono basis.

The Menlo Park City Council is scheduled to discuss whether the city should pass a "sanctuary city" ordinance at its April 4 meeting, according to Mayor Kirsten Keith.

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33 people like this
Posted by tired
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 13, 2017 at 12:46 pm

time for everyone to take a deep breath and grow up. what is taking place by the California crowd is destroying the US. time to back off and learn how to live peaceably.


23 people like this
Posted by Joan
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 13, 2017 at 1:06 pm

I can't imagine what Menlo Park is thinking. It is more than unwise to willingly violate Federal law and then whine about your funding being cut. When did we decide which laws to obey?


28 people like this
Posted by MPer
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 13, 2017 at 1:22 pm

I wish that Ray Meuller would focus on getting the DSP moving and improving our infrastructure vs. jumping on every hot button issue that will get his name in print.


30 people like this
Posted by Loni
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Mar 13, 2017 at 1:39 pm

I am 100% behind any effort which thwarts and/or prohibits this current president and his administration from inflicting further damage to our nation.

This is not a matter of taking a chill pill or a time out… every effort needs to be talen to sideline his horrific, racist, self-serving agenda. He has made a mockery of the United States Constitution, and has no problem egregiously trampling upon it almost daily.

I look forward to the day Republicans FINALLY have that V8 moment and either begin the impeachment process… or exercise Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the United States Constitution and remove him immediately before he does any further damage to our country, and to our reputation with our allies throughout the world.


12 people like this
Posted by Jim
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 13, 2017 at 1:52 pm

@mper: the article specifically states Mueller IS focused on infrastructure.

"Councilman Ray Mueller, who proposed that the question be put on the council's agenda, said that Menlo Park will suffer adverse effects if the threats are carried out against Santa Clara County. The county, he said, could lose as much as $1.7 billion...that funding goes toward infrastructure projects... he said. Without that funding, traffic and infrastructure conditions would worsen across the region."

Santa Clara County is just next door in Palo Alto. If Santa Clara County can't fund it's infrastructure projects, won't that mean Menlo Park's infrastructure will suffer and be over burdened as a result? Seems to me like Mueller is focused on exactly what he should be - making sure the tax dollars our region paid by taxpayers like you and I don't disappear in Washington D.C.

Do you really support the Federal Government taking $1.7 billion dollars in funding from our region?









26 people like this
Posted by Jane Gill
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 13, 2017 at 2:30 pm


This is a great new game: choose which federal laws you don't wish to follow. This is the same game that South Carolina and the other Confederate States played 150 years ago.

Here is Menlo Park's new motto: "Home of the New Confederacy."


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Posted by Alan
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Mar 13, 2017 at 2:43 pm

My understanding is that a "Sanctuary City" or county really isn't a sanctuary ... it's a matter of local law enforcement cooperating with Federal ICE officers in a limited way. ICE officers are responsible for enforcing federal immigration law. In any of these so-called sanctuary cities, ICE officers can be involved in deportations.

In many situations, local officers don't enforce federal law - because it's not their responsibility; it's left to the feds. However, in some instances, it is extremely helpful to the ICE for local jurisdictions to hold people while their immigration status is checked. Without that assistance, many undocumented people will be untouched.

Some local police don't want to do this for a number of reasons: they want illegal immigrants to be free to report crimes, without fear of deportation; they don't want to be sued if the hold someone improperly; and, yes, indeed, some are sympathetic to illegal immigrants. Is this "lack of cooperation" unambiguously illegal? I don't know. If it isn't, obviously withholding federal funds is inappropriate. It would seem to me that if it was clearly illegal, they could press charges instead of withholding federal funds on unrelated matters, or get sanctuary laws overturned ... there's a grey area here ...

Of course - you want immigrants to follow process; this isn't a matter of hating immigrants to want them to follow a legal process. It's just that there are too many undocumented people already living here, that suddenly pushing them out is going to tear up a huge number of lives. Also - it's terrible how they're being used as scapegoats.


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a resident of Atherton: West of Alameda

on Mar 13, 2017 at 3:26 pm

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28 people like this
Posted by Golfer
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Mar 13, 2017 at 3:37 pm

It's about time that the federal government inflicts some meaningful consequences on rogue local governments, and their citizens, who think they can arbitrarily pick and choose which laws to follow based on their individual political beliefs. I know such behavior was modeled by and applauded under the Obama Regime, but the American people said enough is enough and we finally have national leadership who cares about the welfare of this country.
We can only pray the MP Council recognizes they are part of the USA and acts lawfully. After all, we have no problem with immigrants, only those who are illegal!


27 people like this
Posted by NOT tired
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 13, 2017 at 4:29 pm

@tired: "...what is taking place by the California crowd is destroying the US."

SayWhaaaaaa?!?!?!? Hyperbole, much?

California is great. 6th largest economy. Sided with the majority of Americans in voting against Trump, our popular vote losing president who wants to take away healthcare from 24 million Americans, and raise premiums on the rest while diving billions in tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires..

Just because you are in a distinct minority in the great state of California doesn't allow you to change facts.


*** Q: Here's a question: what do 1 in 9 Americans call themselves?

*** A: "Californian"


Feel free to look at the great lifestyle choices in Idaho or Alabama. You'll love it there!


24 people like this
Posted by Dick
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 13, 2017 at 8:45 pm

As a long term resident of Menlo Park I 100% disagree with our city council/city not obeying existing laws and/or spending any of my tax dollars on advancing a Sanctuary City agenda. If we want different laws have our elected officials, under our democratic society, create them. Until then, follow all existing laws. Or, do I get to pick and choose what laws to follow? Talk about chaos.


9 people like this
Posted by please explain
a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 13, 2017 at 11:35 pm



And how do you explain keeping people who came here illegally to those who have waited in line some times for

years to come in legally


4 people like this
Posted by please explain
a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 13, 2017 at 11:47 pm

@Not tired

"California is great. 6th largest economy. Sided with the majority of Americans in voting against Trump, our popular vote losing president who wants to take away healthcare from 24 million Americans, and raise premiums on the rest while diving billions in tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires.."

You're off topic but since you brought it up, Can we mix in some facts,

under the ACA most low income users will never use the coverage because adding the premiums to the out of pocket deductibles is to high to reach the level where ACA starts to pay.

Works as a catastrophic plan but not for the majority


60 people like this
Posted by law abiding person
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Mar 14, 2017 at 12:17 am

If your wife or daughter were sexually assaulted, you'd want any witness of that crime to report with incident to police without fear of being questioned about their immigration status. An otherwise law-abiding person in this country with no visa, or an expired visa, is much less of a threat then a sexually violent predator... that brags about grabbing strangers by their genitals on the Access Hollywood bus, for example. In our community, we want sexually violent predators locked up.


3 people like this
Posted by Mo Werd
a resident of Woodside: other
on Mar 14, 2017 at 5:30 am

All the Atherton lame-oh's will vote against this because "they got in" and don't care about everyone else. Folks - it's not about funding (oh boo), it's about standing up for what's right. Move to a red state if you don't understand that.


3 people like this
Posted by tired
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 14, 2017 at 7:36 am

Not tired-- move to a 3rd world country and then see how you feel. you are not elite and the last time i looked, California was part of the united states not a separate entity. abide by the rules and laws of the land.

Loni-really?? where does this incessant proclamation of phobias come from. learn the facts not the liberal hype which is put out by the elites-- who all seem to be old people who claim they aren't. look into the mirror instead of claiming everyone else is wrong.

Jim-- i do support law abiding citizens. the loss of funding is up to the people who live in a community. robbers lose their funding if they aren't allowed to rob--i am very OK with that. Freedom comes with RESPONSIBILITY.

There are far worse things that could happen to our community than losing funding.


22 people like this
Posted by Ray Mueller
a resident of Menlo Park: University Heights
on Mar 14, 2017 at 9:27 am

I appreciate differences of opinion on this issue. And it's safely within your First Amendment rights to question my motivations. But my resolve on this issue remains unchanged. Make no mistake, this is an issue affecting Menlo Park residents locally. The withholding of $1.7B dollars from Santa Clara County will have serious detrimental affects to Menlo Park's economy and our region, from infrastructure, to public health, to social services. I do not believe we can stay silent as this happens to our neighbor Santa Clara County, and to us. Moreover Menlo Park has a unique voice in this discussion, as we are not presently a Sanctuary Jurisdiction, yet will suffer serious detrimental effects from the punishment laid out by the Executive Order. The Executive Order somehow ignores the reality that our economy is interconnected with our neighbor, Santa Clara County. If our neighbor is punished in this fashion, we will be as well. For that reason I believe the Executive Order is overbroad and violates the Due Process rights of our residents. Should Menlo Park decide to become a Sanctuary Jurisdiction at some point, others who are not will still be affected in this fashion. At the end of the day I know people will try to reduce all of this to political simplicity. However I firmly believe we need to fight to protect the tax dollars our region paid into the system, to preserve our economy and reduce the suffering of our residents.


5 people like this
Posted by NOT tired
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 14, 2017 at 10:41 am

@tired: "what is taking place by the California crowd is destroying the US."

No defense of that absurd statement? I said "California is great. 6th largest economy."

@tired: "move to a 3rd world country and then see how you feel."

I repeat: SayWhaaaaaa?!?

California is not "destroying the US." We, as we have for decades, are LEADING the US. What does your absurd "3rd world" reply have to do with your original absurd statement?

----------------------

@pleaseexplain: "under the ACA most low income users will never use the coverage"

Wrong. You are saying that low income users who got coverage through the ACA won't use it?!? Please prove your claim.

I can modify that to make it correct, however: "under the ACA most low income users IN RED STATES will never use theIR RIGHT TO VOTE TO PROTECT THEIR NEW FOUND COVERAGE"

Find the rash of press reports, with a quick search, of Trump voters who are disappointed that Trump is taking away their healthcare; or here is the ADD version (twitter, of course) #ObamaHadMeCovered



6 people like this
Posted by bob
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 14, 2017 at 1:36 pm

Putting aside the issues of safety, have any of the current and wannabe sanctuary municipalities, etc. thought about who will be taxed to make up a shortfall in Federal funding? I, personally, would rather not see my tax local, city, county, state tax rates increase to make up the deficit. And you know that somehow our municipalities will figure out how to tax us all. Do we, the people, get a chance to vote on becoming sanctuary entities or do our locally elected politicians get to make up their own minds and rules regardless of what the majority might think.

Just wondering ......


18 people like this
Posted by Alan
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Mar 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm

bob - it may turn out that Trump cannot do anything about sanctuary cities ... because immigration enforcement is the jurisdiction of the Federal Government. I mentioned that above; this may not be illegal at all. Even if the federal government can do something about it - I believe there was a Supreme Court ruling that the federal government cannot withhold funds to coerce local governments to do things, unless it's explicitly written as part of the grant. I believe this is an implication of a ruling involving the ACA, ironically enough. This could end up being a bunch of empty posturing.


60 people like this
Posted by Ray Mueller
a resident of Menlo Park: University Heights
on Mar 15, 2017 at 9:29 am

Last night the Menlo Park City Council, in an unanimous
bi-partisan vote, agreed to sign onto the Amicus Curiae brief in support of Santa Clara County, in Santa Clara County v. Trump, seeking an injunction against the Federal government to prevent withholding of federal funds from so-called "Sanctuary Jurisdictions."


10 people like this
Posted by Pamela Jones
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Mar 15, 2017 at 11:21 am

Pamela Jones is a registered user.

Suggestion: Prior to posting comments you may find it useful to become educated on the issue rather than responding to just the news article.

Here is the executive order: Web Link

Law suit filed by the City and County of San Francisco: Web Link

Menlo Park City Council to join amicus brief: Web Link

Now that you have completed your "homework," you may want to watch the public comments and discussion: Web Link


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Posted by tired
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 22, 2017 at 3:24 pm

to whom it may concern-- sanctuary?? sanctuary for whom? [Portion removed; stick to the topic and don't accuse an entire category of people of violent crimes.] sure, everyone is an immigrant-- but, the vast majority of immigrants went through the system the correct and lawful way--and, no it may not have been easy and a quick fix-- but, it sure beats anyone walking across the border willy-nilly and doing whatever they want. Canada doesn't even want them. they have borders and are doing their due diligence to enforce their laws. the US should do the same. Perhaps you are above the law or it makes you feel good to think that you are above the law. Quit thinking that just because you live in California, you are better than anyone else. arrogant and narcissistic?? half the country is hell bent on destroying the united states. maybe Sweden is a good place for your philosophy.


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Posted by NOT tired
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 22, 2017 at 5:15 pm

SayWhaaaaaa?!?!?!??!?!?

"everyone is an immigrant-- but, the vast majority of immigrants went through the system" except when most of our descendants came over, it WAS a wide open border.

"Quit thinking that just because you live in California, you are better than anyone else." Never said that. Only said that CALIFORNIA is better.

"half the country is hell bent on destroying the united states." Wow. Would that be the Trump half?

Nope. Trump was the popular vote loser. Your math does not add up.

I can only imagine what tripe was removed by the editor.

Have a nice day!


12 people like this
Posted by Nate
a resident of another community
on Mar 23, 2017 at 8:52 am

@Not Tired,

You cannot win or lose the popular vote because the popular vote was never contested. Both candidates in the presidential race formulated strategies and campaigned to win the electoral college vote.

Clinton abandoned the Democratic Party's traditional base of working people and tried to win based on a coalition of women and LGBTQQ voters (gender politics). This was a catastrophic miscalculation on the part of the Clinton campaign. Women are also working people. Clinton won the LGBTQQ vote but failed to capture enough of the women's vote to secure an electoral college victory.


2 people like this
Posted by NOT tired
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 23, 2017 at 10:47 am

@nate: if the popular vote loss by Trump doesn't matter, why does it bother him so much?

He tweets lies about illegals voting to pretend he actually won the popular vote.

He goes on and on about his (demonstrably not) "massive" electoral vote victory, even when he is meeting with foreign leaders. The eye-rolls are priceless.

Even the minority fringies that support him tried a meme about "if we don't count California, Trump would have won the popular vote".


'The lady doth protest too much, methinks'.


2 people like this
Posted by NOT tired
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 23, 2017 at 12:14 pm

"He tweets lies about illegals voting to pretend he actually won the popular vote."

And he brought it up again yesterday in that lie-filled 'interview' with Time: ""I have people say it was more than" (3 million votes)

"Well now if you take a look at the votes, when I say that, I mean mostly they register wrong, in other words, for the votes, they register incorrectly, and/or illegally. And they then vote. You have tremendous numbers of people"

Tremendous!

Sad!

Our Popular-Vote-Losing president thinks the popular vote is VERY important. My prediction: he will bring it up regularly for the rest of his life, even after he quits.


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