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Guest opinion: Help fight proposed rule that would harm immigrant families

 

By Karen Grove

I'm proud that in 2017, the city of Menlo Park declared our values of inclusivity and diversity by passing a Welcoming City resolution and a Sanctuary City ordinance. Now we, the residents of Menlo Park, must take action to defend those values and protect our immigrant families by opposing one of the latest moves in the Trump administration's attack on immigrants and refugees.

The administration has proposed a rule change that will penalize applicants for permanent residence for their use of public assistance, including access to publicly funded health care, nutrition and housing, for being too young or too old, or for not being wealthy.

The proposed new rule would cause immigrant families to avoid seeking public assistance in any form. Even fully employed immigrant families, working their fingers to the bone, use public services, because one job -- sometimes even two or three -- is not enough to make ends meet.

Those most harmed will be children, including citizen children, who will experience life-long harm to their mental and physical health caused by the toxic stress of poverty.

The harm caused by this rule won't be limited to immigrants and their children. Avoiding routine health care often results in more serious, more expensive publicly funded emergency care. Moreover, if we discourage immigrants from accessing health care, we place the whole community at public health risk. Schools will struggle to educate children experiencing pain from untreated dental disease or hunger, and all students will suffer.

It doesn't have to be this way.

We can support all our residents and provide opportunity to all. We know that it is well worth doing so, because half of all Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or their children, and immigrants have made immeasurable contributions to American arts and culture.

My father, Andy Grove, escaped to the United States from Hungary in 1956, and my mom, Eva Kastan Grove, immigrated to the United States from Bolivia in the 1950s after escaping from Austria in 1938 after her father was rounded up and fortuitously released on Kristallnacht.

Together, my parents raised two daughters, built Intel into a Fortune 500 company, and started the Grove Foundation.

My parents would not have been able to contribute to their family, community, and the economy of this country and the world if they had not attended excellent colleges in New York City -- for free; if they had not been able to count on public health services, and safe places to live.

The Grove Foundation seeks to make the "American Dream" that my parents experienced, and that so many others seek, into a reality for all, regardless of when or how they got to this country, and no matter how much or how little money they have. We work nationally and locally, and we cannot achieve our mission without our government's cooperation and commitment, so I ask your help in opposing this new rule.

Before the "public charge" rule can be finalized, the administration must review and respond to every unique public comment it receives about the proposed regulation.

Please join me in submitting a comment opposing the rule change by the Dec. 10 deadline. You may do so at protectingimmigrantfamilies.org, where you will find additional information about the proposed rule.

Karen Grove is a Menlo Park resident, and chair of the Grove Foundation.

Comments

18 people like this
Posted by Steve L
a resident of Portola Valley: Portola Valley Ranch
on Dec 3, 2018 at 1:03 pm

I'm delighted to join you, Karen, in your advocacy. We need our voices to be heard to promote fairness and bring a generous welcome to immigrants who are contributing so much. Count me in.


23 people like this
Posted by lnon
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Dec 3, 2018 at 1:39 pm

Karen:
You are indeed a fortunate person having had the luck to be born of multi-millionaire parents who were citizens of the US, having immigrated here legally. As such, maybe the taxes you pay and the donations you make are very easy for you due to your level of wealth. Others aren't as fortunate and maybe scrutinize those financial outlays a bit more than you. In any case, I have a fundamental problem with people who come here illegally and then have the nerve to apply for, and obtain, government (meaning, taxpayer funded) welfare services of any kind (foodstamps, health care, housing assistance, etc).

In this day and age, where we don't need much unskilled manual labor in the country, we should have means-tested immigration. We should be looking for educated, healthy individuals who can pay their own way and contribute to our society. With the debt that our country has, we can not allow people into the country who are a net drain on our economy. I think we do need to differentiate between those who enter the country legally and go through a thorough vetting to enter our country, and those who ignore our laws and enter illegally. I have no time, nor want to spend any of my or other taxpayer funds for those who choose to ignore our laws.


19 people like this
Posted by I'm not an original American.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 3, 2018 at 2:11 pm

"In this day and age, where we don't need much unskilled manual labor in the country..."

Says someone who has never had to staff businesses to meet demand for services.

Ask a farmer. Or a nursing home manager. Or a hospital HR manager. Or a QSR operator. Or a, awww hell, you'll never understand.


18 people like this
Posted by Citizen
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 3, 2018 at 3:10 pm

Thank you for your points of view. Legal entry into the USA, should be a controlled process which includes identification, records checks, and a respect of the USA.

I know many don’t think the USA is not a great country. On my ride to work today, I heard no gun shots, explosions, or civil unrest. I feel we are all blessed to live and be part of this republic.

God bless America


17 people like this
Posted by kbehroozi
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Dec 3, 2018 at 3:24 pm

kbehroozi is a registered user.

lnon,

A lot of industries outside Silicon Valley rely depend on the kind of labor you're describing as inessential (farming, meatpacking, etc). But also, here in the Bay Area, a lot of our dual-income career families rely heavily on the ability to outsource chores such as childcare, house cleaning, yard work, transportation, car washing, etc. to lower-skilled (or overskilled-for-the-job-but-super-motivated-to-work) immigrants.

Web Link

This isn't really about those who enter our country illegally. Rather, as I understand it, this change would have the effect of disincentivizing these lower-wage immigrants from maintaining legal status/renewing work permits, etc. Surely we can agree that this would be the wrong direction for our country.


17 people like this
Posted by pearl
a resident of another community
on Dec 3, 2018 at 4:30 pm

pearl is a registered user.

Karen Grove,

I do NOT want my taxpayer dollars spent on free housing, free medical, free education, Medicare, MediCal, etc., and all kinds of free welfare for illegals!!! I worked and paid into the system for over 50 years and I don't even get any of those things for free. Give me your address, and I'll be happy to send all the illegals over to your place to support!!!

pearl


18 people like this
Posted by Stop the Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Dec 3, 2018 at 5:33 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when, instead of doing actual research about the subject, you rely on Fox "News" and right-wing AM talk radio for information.


3 people like this
Posted by pearl
a resident of another community
on Dec 3, 2018 at 8:38 pm

pearl is a registered user.

Stop the Nonsense:

Center for Immigration Studies:

Web Link

pearl


18 people like this
Posted by Stop the Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Dec 3, 2018 at 9:06 pm

The Center for Immigration Studies, Pearl? Really?

For those of you who actually bother to do actual research, here's a study of the so-called "Center":
Web Link


6 people like this
Posted by Lnon
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Dec 4, 2018 at 12:02 am

So, if farm labor or other kinds of other unskilled labor is needed then let’s have a temporary worker or seasonal workers program. All done legally, following the rules, and let’s also make sure none get on government assistance. Employer either has to pay enough for housing and food or provide for the workers.

I’m also tired of hearing the argument that every American is an immigrant and therefore we need to allow any and all who want to be here entry. First, my ancestors were all legal immigrants. Second, if you really want to press the issue, everyone everywhere is a descendant of immigrants. No matter which non-African country you come from. Swedes, Germans, Itslians, Iranians, Indians, Chinese, and, yes, even so-called Native Americans all came from somewhere else. So what—-that is not an argument for open borders.


4 people like this
Posted by lnon
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Dec 5, 2018 at 8:15 am

@stop the nonsense: an opinion by the SPLC? Really?...

If the best you can do is offer an opinion by the super-liberal SPLC which has a history of categorizing any organization which it disagrees with as a “hate group” then you don’t have much. Try something better than casting shade on the Center fo Immigration Studies and try to actually refute their position.

Have you seen the new study by the Census Bureau? 63 percent of illegals are on some form of government welfare, going to 70 percent for those here 10 years. That is not who we want in our country. We can’t, as a society afford this. Send them back, have them stand in line, and if they qualify, enter the US legally.


8 people like this
Posted by Stop the Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Dec 5, 2018 at 9:47 am

@lnon -- Didn't actually READ the article, did you?

Then again, the far right have an issue with reading comprehension to begin with -- which is why they believe the garbage put out by groups like the so-called Center for Immigration Studies.


2 people like this
Posted by pearl
a resident of another community
on Dec 5, 2018 at 11:58 am

pearl is a registered user.

@Stop the Nonsense:

Haven't you anything more interesting to say? You say the same thing in every post.

pearl


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Posted by Stop the Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Dec 5, 2018 at 2:41 pm

pearl -- "Haven't you anything more interesting to say? You say the same thing in every post."

Pot, meet kettle.



16 people like this
Posted by Inefficiencies
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 5, 2018 at 3:01 pm

"Have you seen the new study by the Census Bureau? "

The poster HAS NOT seen any such study, either, because it DOES NOT EXIST. Notice the lack of link to the Census Bureau?

It's a LIE.

She probably read about that ridiculous "study" in the Washington Examiner, a 'paper' that is notorious for reprinting 'think tank' propaganda. Note their so called study of working immigrants and welfare absurdly includes the Earned Income Tax Credit for low income wage earners.

That's welfare?!? It's for WORKING FAMILIES!! EITC is for low- to moderate-income working individuals and couples, particularly those with children.

Want to get rid of EITC? Raise the minimum wage to twenty bucks. In the meantime, always look deeply into any 'study' printed in that rag. Remember - this is the same poster who thinks:

"In this day and age, where we don't need much unskilled manual labor in the country..."

So foolish, uniformed, unaware and easily fooled by rags like the W-Ex.

At the least this poster must hate Trump for adding trillions in debt - "With the debt that our country has..."


(note - watch out, here comes the whataboutism...)


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Posted by I'm not an original American.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 5, 2018 at 3:07 pm

Editor - excuse the error, autocorrect somehow entered a wrong name for the last post and I failed to notice/correct. Please feel free to edit.

TY.


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Posted by I'm not an original American.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 6, 2018 at 10:50 am

Yeah, the White Nationalists and anti-immigrant crowd got shut up pretty good in the last couple days. Their inane "studies" are a joke. And gosh darn it, they can't figure out why Donny hasn't built The Wall he promised, even with control of the House and Senate.

And all the proof we need that the Grifter In Chief has been using them as fools keeps coming out.

Guatemalan Caravans of diseased, evil illegals rushing the border?

Sure. So they can not only get paid by Trump himself, but get AWARDS for scrubbing his toilet for him while stealing American jobs.

Trump certainly understands the concept of useful idiots.

"Lock her up!" they chant with General Flynn the treasonous traitor. "Build the Wall!" chant the fools.

Sad. So very, very sad.


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