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Lots of comments, but no changes on Oak Knoll School project

Original post made on Oct 8, 2008

The Menlo Park City Council at its Oct. 7 meeting had the unusual -- and frustrating -- role of hearing all about permits for the upcoming construction project at Oak Knoll School, but having no authority to do anything.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 12:01 PM

Comments (42)

Posted by Carol
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:34 pm

I find it difficult, that once again, the real story behind the story, is being missed. It was outrageous that so much time was spent on A curb cut. In the end, after too much discussion, two of the council members would not even express their views. Is it because Cohen and Ferguson are headed into an election? Of course! Is it because neither one of them back the school, and have literally ignored any and all issues concerning schools in Menlo Park? Of course! This story needs to be reported, the pandering that went on with their statements, so as to not lose votes, did not fool me. As a working mother, with two kids at Oak Knoll, I cannot bring myself to even consider voting for these two non-commit types! No wonder our city continues to sit at a standstill, for so long! These two individuals cannot even make a decision on a curb cut, what are they going to say when a one mile stretch of El Camino Real has to be developed?

Posted by illegal entry
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 8, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Is the above poster serious? Referring to Fergusson and Cohen, "neither one of them back the school, and have literally ignored any and all issues concerning schools in Menlo Park?" Kelly has been a leader in Safe Routes to Schools and an active Laurel mom. Andy has had extensive discussions with school parents and educators about the need for city/district collaboration. Cohen has been met with disdain from Ranella.
This curb cut discussion will continue to be about an intransigent site committee and school board that deceitfully moved the project from the voter approved back basketball courts to nearly right up against neighbor houses, while destroying a special playground enjoyed by generations of Menlo park kids and their families. The immediate neighbors, now hugely impacted by this surreptitious "bait and switch" , are fighting back with everything they have, costing thousands of dollars in legal fees. The alternate plan neighbors presented with the MPR on the original site, the back basketball courts, was cooly dismissed by the board's sense of omnipotence in its defense of the exclusive site committee.
Question, does the previous poster really reside in Sharon Heights?
If so, that is in the Las Lomitas Dist.

Posted by Chris
a resident of Oak Knoll School
on Oct 8, 2008 at 1:51 pm

The previous poster should have used the name "immediate neighbor of oak knoll", instead of "illegal entry". They could have then skipped repeating the same old argument about a deceitful school board.

Posted by Tell me why
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 8, 2008 at 2:00 pm

In all fairness, city staff's detailed presentation before the council was to allow for transparency given the strong feelings and important safety and traffic impact considerations around the curb cut issue that did not have ample time to be evaluated by the Traffic Commission. This was not a City Council action item. City staff said the encroachment permit approval would apply only to the plans **as submitted**. If the project plans changed, the school district would need to apply for a new encroachment permit.

Given that:
1. The district has not yet actually applied to the city for the curb cut permits...
2. A project contractor has not yet been selected...
3. The district's plans are not yet approved by the state...
4. Stormwater drainage plans & issues are yet to be finalized...

Why the rush? The ball is in the district's court, not the city's. Why should the city prematurely approve the permit, then deny it if the final project plans are changed to meet state approval, and then waste time (and $$$) re-investigating the new plans for permit approval?

Let the district hire a contractor, and bring the finalized, state-approved project plans along with a completed permit application to the city before anyone starts pointing fingers or complaining about project delays.

Posted by mpcsd parent
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Oct 8, 2008 at 2:07 pm

Ken Ranella and his school board crew have made a lot of enemies among district parents, not just for this grueling tug-of-war over the Oak Knoll renovation but for their blatant let-them-eat-cake approach to other concerns expressed by parents. Some of the board members have behaved pretty arrogantly toward their constituents.

To blast Kelly and Andy as being opposed to schools is simply ludicrous. Both are parents and staunch supporters of children, families, and school-related issues, even though the city has no jurisdiction over the schools. I applaud them for their willingness to listen to residents of the community. They take their responsibility to the entire city seriously and last night demonstrated their ability to withstand pressure from a small but powerful minority.

As a district parent, I have been the recipient of Ken Ranella's emails about the council meeting. His disdain for the MP council and for the public process comes through very clearly. What a shameful attitude for an educator.

I understand that construction costs are rising and that the district wants to move ahead so as to get more bang for its buck. But that does not excuse blatant disrespect for opposing viewpoints and obstacles.

Posted by William
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 8, 2008 at 2:50 pm

I really appreciate the way people that are in "Andy and Kelly's Camp" come to the rescue, every time someone disagrees with their lack of leadership. It's commendable, but really stretches the truth. Obviously, from the reading of the comments above, these individuals have never sat down with Ken Ranella. They have no idea what this man goes thru on a 24 hour/7 days a week job, and has been doing a tremendous job of rebuilding 4 schools, adding bus lines, adding new curriculum, increasing school rankings and scores, and working with a council that has NO jurisdiction, whatsoever in the school's business, period. We need leadership, and we need decision making, in some cases tough decision making. The first comment on this thread said it best, how ARE these two going to make any type of hard decision on a MUCH bigger issue? Our town is the laughing stock of the peninsula with our leadership!

Posted by fact check
a resident of Oak Knoll School
on Oct 8, 2008 at 4:04 pm

"Carol" says that she has two children at Oak Knoll, but also gives her neighborhood as Sharon Heights. Students in Sharon Heights are in the Los Lomitas School District. Is Carol really a parent or just playing one on the web?

Posted by truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 8, 2008 at 5:04 pm

Dead wrong, William. Normally I would let your own ignorance rule out the validity of your comments, but alas, I cannot. If you want to blow political smoke up everyone's shirt that is one thing and it is acceptable. But don't try to make it seem like you have information that you do not have.

Kelly and Andy both served as conduits to the school district and have put in a lot of time solving complex issues with safe routes and neighborhood relations around school sites. That is a fact.

Posted by mpcsd parent
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Oct 8, 2008 at 5:16 pm

Funny how the council bashers are never more than one thread away from taking aim at an incumbent. In the last 2 years the council has made more progress than it did in the previous four years.

I second Truth in noting that Kelly and Andy have met with the heads of local school districts. But Ken in particular is not very receptive, and why should he be? His job is secure, he runs his own little fiefdom, and he works with a board that he handpicks. Oh, and he earns a nice chunk of change, whereas the council members are volunteers.

I have also sat down with Ken, face-to-face, on several occasions. When he started in this job he was a pretty decent sup, but lately he's become a petty tyrant. And please don't give him credit for rising test scores - that credit belongs to the teachers, and we shouldn't overlook the fact that most of our students come from a pretty smart gene pool or their parents couldn't afford to live here. Heredity is arguably the biggest factor contributing to those test results.

Posted by Schools Are #1
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 pm


* What EXACTLY have these two incumbents done, besides "form committees", hire consultants, and/or delay, delay, delay....
* Andy has never attended a school board meeting, to date.
* Andy has proactively met with the Oak Knoll neighbors that are complaining, but again, never with the schoolboard, he is pushing them to "continue their fight".
* Ken never handpicked these individuals, most were on board before he even came to Menlo Park!
* "Petty tyrant" - again, examples?
* Test scores that have INCREASED. We've had the same gene pool since Hewlit/Packard broke ground in their garage. Ken put in place a very stringent hiring process of teachers, which equals better teachers, which equals better scores.
* What do you have against the schools? You should be kissing the ground the school staffs, teachers and administrators walk on, without them, your home would be worth as much as say...........Redwood City homes. Get over it!

Keep trying to post information without facts, and just a bunch of subjective opinions, it's falling on deaf ears.

Posted by observer
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 8, 2008 at 9:57 pm

It was so refreshing to watch Ranella and the board get dressed down as unrepentant school children in the front row of city council chambers, not their usual domain. Try as he could, their advocate Boyle, couldn't save their bacon.
Their sychophants behind them in the audience, deliberately martialed to show a consolidated force to the council, were noticeably silent(hello, speaker cards anyone), and well deserving of the push back by bold speakers who are more comfortable in an open, transparent public forum at council chambers. Most unlike the carefully orchestrated school board meetings on facility expansions, where opposition was treated with scorn and derision.
Principals like Ackerman, superintendants like Ranella, board members like Ives and Thygessen come and go, but this community understands its responsibility to preserve and protect our irreplaceable green spaces as a legacy to future generations.
Too bad West Menlo has been overrun by irreverent social climbers shamelessly using Oak Knoll as their next growth company.
Thank you Andy and Kelly for speaking out for the greater public good.

Posted by Schools Are #1
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 9, 2008 at 9:14 am

"Observer", I enjoy reading your rants about the schoolboard and it's supporters! I find comfort in knowing that I am on the right path, and a much more positive path. You and your 1968 Summer of Love drop outs, will eventually fade away into obscurity. My only problem is that it won't be soon enough! It is amazing how you view a simple curb cut as an "irreplaceable green space". This is GREAT stuff!

Posted by truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 9, 2008 at 9:39 am

Ridiculous commentary from schools are #1. Where are we going with all of this.

Facts, Andy and Kelly have a record of working to solve complex issues related to increased school enrollments. I have yet to see the challenger in this council race at one board meeting and he only started going to council meetings when he announced he was running.

There are a lot of people working hard to solve the issues related to school population growth and they all deserve our respect regardless of what your position may be.

I know Ranella often misleads parents into thinking they are under attack from government. But the guy is a school superintendent. Stop asking him to be something more.

From what I know from school board members and council members, the two are working together fairly well. Better than they have in the past.

Posted by Schools Are #1
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:02 am

"Facts"? What facts, I don't see any, except for once again just comments, no numbers. Just a lot of "nice comentary". Very typical, all fluff. I think the challenger is probably a bright guy that doesn't want to sit thru that dribble, and talk about a curb cut for 2 hours. He probably has better things to do with his life!

I guess the facts that I presented in my former comment are going untested, that must mean they are either true, or you didn't realize these facts to be true?

Posted by truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:15 am

Standard response mocking anyone who disagrees. Vote for Rick if you like to be mocked because that is what the prior council did every Tuesday night. And his minions are all about sending out false information is a desperate attempt to catch up. Wait, does that sound eerily familiar to our national election?

The Facts:

Safe Routes to School
Improved School Transportation for Kids - Yello Buses Anyone?
After School Care on School Sites

Kudos to the district for making those "facts" happen under a great school board. Congrats to our current council for working with the school district to bring about such improvements.

How am I doing so far schools are #1?

Three "facts"...Rick...where is his school accomplishment? Fremont Park? Get serious.

Posted by Tempis Fugit
a resident of Oak Knoll School
on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:42 am

Schools are #1 ... I smell a forum troll.

I seem to recall your weird rants about hippies from some of the other threads.

In case you've been cryogenically frozen for the past 30 years, let me try to explain something to you. "Summer of love drop-outs" are approaching retirement age, they aren't schlepping their elementary-school aged kids to Oak Knoll.

Posted by Schools Are #1
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:39 pm

This was fun, but I have to get back to work. Have fun smokin that weed, it's turning your head to mush! I was hoping for some specific responses to my questions, and to my facts?
Dig deep and try to muster some type of an answer, that makes sense. Thanks for your support, this is a great blog!

Posted by agree with truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 pm

I think truth did put down some facts. And you did not.

Posted by sour apples
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Oct 9, 2008 at 1:59 pm

If you have ever been to a school board meeting you will notice how all board members and staff play the power trip with their open Powerbooks, as if the audience didn't matter. What an exercise in arrogant condescension when any one of them deigns to give the audience a nod, as if attendees are there to be lectured by board and staff.
You don't see city council members, or any city commission members, ever pulling that stunt. As a mac user, maybe Andy is outraged at the sheer arrogance of this board in what is supposed to be open, communicative and respectful public process.
When we watched the replay telecast of the council meeting, we were gratified to see the board, seated in the front row as if to show their authority, appropriately reprimanded by council.

Posted by mpcsd parent
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Oct 9, 2008 at 2:27 pm

Fact: the school board members are hand-picked from among the MPAEF board and the PTO presidents. There hasn't been a real school board election for years; the hand-picked members are appointed in lieu of an election. I think people know that it's pointless for a non-insider to run.

I have never butted heads with Ken Ranella, but I have heard from many people who have been stonewalled by him. Talk to parents of special needs students if you'd like to heard some horrific tales. As for his expertise in selecting and hiring teachers, the credit, or lack thereof, belongs to the individual principals. Every year, new teachers are not offered a contract renewal; one new teacher was fired in February this year. Conversely, at least a couple of principals have proven to be hiring mistakes, creating major problems in their schools. There's nothing outstanding about Ranella's recruitment and retention policies.

Homes in Menlo Park and Atherton have gotten a lot more expensive than when Hewlett and Packard first started. In the 1960s, a blue collar worker could afford a basic house. Now it takes two highly educated parents earning professional salaries to buy a starter home. Smarter parents=smarter kids.

I have nothing against the schools. I think my kids have gotten and continue to receive a terrific education. There are three reasons for that: talented peers, involved parents, and dedicated teachers who like what they do and are willing to overlook the political maneuvers of the board and supervisor.

Posted by Schools Are #1
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 9, 2008 at 2:50 pm

Again, no facts or examples, please help me with this.

"power trip with their open PowerBooks"?? - Purely a subjective, doesn't "feel right" comment.
"handpicked" - Regardless, it's an election.
"Stonewalled" - How?
"horrific tales" - Yea, let's hear some?
"fired in February" - Good! It was more than likely for good cause. That SHOULD happen.
"Principals have proven to be hiring mistakes" - Like for instance........who and why?
"creating major problems in the schools" - What problems?

I'm not sure what the expensive housing comment was all about, but that's how things work. Better Schools = More Expensive Housing. This is economics 101, find me a bad school district with really expensive housing in a suburb. No such thing.
I only wish this blog dealt with specific examples, and again not a bunch of subjective opinions where someone is angry at someone for some ridiculous reason that has nothing to do with the above issues. Back to work!

Posted by amused
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 9, 2008 at 3:19 pm

This is quite a blog. A note from an observer with no stake in the originating article: It is really difficult to be on city council, and it is really difficult to be in the school board. It too often seems that if a governing body, whatever it may be, is not doing/acting as an individual wants, that said individual relegates that body to being stupid, arrogant, political, power-tripped, or whatever. These times require some really tough decisions, many of them some people will not like. Never will there be a decision that everyone the best of times.

I challenge any of the hyper-critics to join the council, run for the school board. Where the shoes of having to deal with the day-to-day complexities of running a city (not just one issue), or running a district (not just one aspect of), then report back.

Posted by Big Head Todd
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Oct 9, 2008 at 3:49 pm

I'd like to thank mpcsd parent for reintroducing eugenics. It's touching when rich people fervently believe that their superior genes led to their economic success, and that all poor people are merely too stupid to accumulate vast sums of money.

Posted by Scott Oesterling
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 10, 2008 at 12:51 pm

I was actually at the council meeting. My son attends oak knoll. He will not benefit from any of the projects as he will be at hillview by the time they are completed. Still, I am in support of the project.

I am also not afraid to use my name in this post.

I would invite anyone who has questions about what was said at the meeting to watch the meeting. You can see the whole thing on video.

Web Link

I would pay attention to 1hr 55min to 2hrs 13 minutes. This was where the council members each gave their opinion. It will be clear enough as to who spoke clearly and who did not. If you want to get past all the posturing in the above blog, have a look for yourself.

I had only one unanswered question: If the council had no jurisdiction over the matter (which is sort of what the city attorney said at 1hr 53 min.), how did it get on the agenda?

Posted by truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 10, 2008 at 1:05 pm

From what I understand the cut out is city jurisdiction. Safety is under city jurisdiction. If the council was so inclined, it could have ruled that the current plan was unsafe and put children and passerby in a worse position. Such decision as to a cut out for a driveway almost never cross the council but for this one, it did.

Posted by halloween tale
a resident of Menlo Park: University Heights
on Oct 10, 2008 at 7:21 pm

How many parents let their loved ones trick or treat up that stretch of Oak Ave.? Any guesses?
" I want you home you by 8!!"
" Don't take any candy that looks wierd!!"
" And, don't you dare go on Oak Ave. past Oak Knoll!!"
" Where's your flashlight???"

Posted by freddy k
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 10, 2008 at 8:17 pm

those poor folk over there can bring their leftover hersheys kisses and mr. goodbars to the winners on election night.

Posted by tacky attacks
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 10, 2008 at 8:38 pm

I just watched the video(thank you, Scott O, for noting the timeframe in question) and I am having a hard time figuring out why the comments offended anyone. All council members were pro-school, and Ken Ranella made it clear in his email to parents that he was satisfied with the outcome of the session.

Seems to me that the only people who are itching turn this into a cause celebre are those who would like to get rid of the current council members. Rick Ciardella, who apparently doesn't have much of a record to run on, is trying to make political mountains out of a mote of a molehill. Flinging dirt where none is warranted is not a way to gain respect in this town, much less a successful ploy for an aspiring candidate.

I commend the willingness of the council to work together with the schools and the community to achieve optimal results for all parties. Hope they can keep it up! But maybe with less verbiage next time.

Posted by Don't fear public comment
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 10, 2008 at 10:30 pm

Right on, Tacky Atttacks--
I was disgusted by Ciardella's accusation that Kelly Fergusson, Andy Cohen, or any of the council is against the schools. Not only is it untrue, I think Ciardella was counting on the fact that most of the people who would receive his email message won't have bothered to watch the video feed 2 hours in.

Clearly the council members were working to make possible a fair and open hearing. No, they weren't required to do this now, but doesn't it make sense to work out issues now instead of during a later appeal process when the stakes are higher and the people involved are upset because of construction delays? In my opinion this was pro-active leadership, responsive to resident concerns, and a good faith effort to help the situation and clarify roles. Educating people about their rights should not be looked upon as a negative.

Council did the right thing here--a public discussion with everyone involved.

Posted by Debbie
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 11, 2008 at 9:42 am

Sorry, I won't use my name as Scott does above, I applaud him for that, he is a standup guy. I will say however, that I am a parent of a boy that goes to Oak Knoll. Most of the parents that go there have understood full well that Mayor Cohen, specifically has had a HUGE issue with the school's development. He apparently tried to arrange a press conference with the families that have had the NIMBY attitude, since this whole thing started. Fortunately, the press conference was shut down, because it was going to be on the playground in front of the kids!! I think you have to have the history of Andy Cohen and his ridiculous attitude about the schools, in order to have an idea of what the council meeting was all about. He has also never even be seen at a School Board Meeting. I would think the mayor would want to attend one of these?? I think Mr. Ciardella's letter was right on, and finally someone told the real story.

Posted by inconvenient truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30 am

Mayor Cohen was invited by neighbors and friends of the doomed 300 year old heritage oak that was to be replaced by a parking lot in the board approved plan. He was concerned the greater community would lose a treasured resource if that tree came down.
Almanac reporter Andrea Gemmet requested a meeting with neighbors and concerned citizens to see first hand what was planned, as she was new on the beat.

Ackerman had teachers believing that they were saving that Oak, when it was actually the one next to the portables.

It was Maddie Napel and her OK alumnae friends at Hillview, along with former OK teacher Carol Taggart who convinced the Almanac to run an op ed about that tree.
Ultimately, the board relented, but then decided to remove the one that was to have graced the new classroom bldg courtyard.
That's in addition to the 7 oaks in the back that are gonners where they are putting in a soccer field.
Unfortunately, the "saved" 300 year old oak supported by poles will not survive the excavation, construction, truck and car traffic, and the turf block in front of the planned gate will allow too much seepage into its delicate root system. The board will finally get its big parking lot next to the MPR.

Posted by sheesh
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 11, 2008 at 11:54 am

Is that why the board had their lawyer send a letter to McClure threatening to sue the city if they dared to stop the district from getting the enlarged parking lot in a couple of years? Don't bet the city would stand in their way.

Posted by stretching the truth
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Oct 11, 2008 at 2:20 pm

How's that spinning wheel doing, Debbie?

Posted by Where's Rick?
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 11, 2008 at 2:48 pm

So, in all this back and forth and back door politicking using the mantle of the schools, a few simple questions: Was Rick Ciardella at the council meeting last Tuesday? Did anyone see him in the audience? Did he say anything during public comment?

I don't see this anywhere in the thread. I did receive his email SPAM earlier trying to politicize this, but I have not heard that he weighed in during the council meeting, nor that his supporters did either. All seems odd.

More generally, I am not aware that Mr. Ciardella has participated in this issue historically himself? Anyone have any factual historical information to the contrary that predates thefall political season?

Posted by pro-council school parent
a resident of Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
on Oct 11, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Ha ha, Mary, I mean, Debbie, that's a good one! I don't think Andy has ever convened a press conference for anything, but if he did, I doubt it would be over a tree, no matter how beloved a tree.

I understand that Rick was in the audience at the council meeting but did not speak up.

Sounds as though some of you perennial council-bashers are getting pretty desperate. Maybe you should have found a candidate with a little more meat on his bones than Rick Ciardella has. Though given the current council's B+ performance, I can understand why you had a hard time recruiting anyone to sign up for a surefire defeat next month.


Posted by Debbie
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 11, 2008 at 3:40 pm

Nope sorry "pro council school parent" of which you are not. You have it wrong, you don't have the facts. Check into it, it was done during the Spring of last year. I know Rick was at the meeting, he is very engaged. He doesn't even know about the press conference that your Andy tried to hold. You are supporting the wrong guy.

Posted by acorny logic
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 11, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Hey, Deb, how's your son feel about the entire OK front playground being wiped out, the big healthy Oak next to the lunch tables being felled becase it is "unsound"? Plus the healthy oaks and historic Joshua (planted by the Stanford family) in the back to be replaced by Astroturf. Dare you ask him?
You could give him a Waukegen, now Windsor Dr., Tom M. response. What was it Tom bellowed at the board meeting when recalling his school days?
Love that asphalt and concrete!
Or some such bs.
Wasn't his missus the one who told council last year about the woeful lack of play field spaces around town.
Andy heard her and decided to take charge in attempting to save the Oak Knoll playground. The Almanac heard the pleas and that's why they endorsed Andy for re election. The neighbors worked hard to come up with an alternate plan to save the front playfield while meeting all the educational, operational needs of the school.
Makes one wonders what values you're teaching your son!

Posted by Don't fear public comment
a resident of Laurel School
on Oct 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Has anyone mentioned that School Board meetings and City Council meetings are nearly always on the same nights (Tuesdays)? That makes it pretty tough to get to both if you are on one or the other. That alone might be a good thing for one group or the other to change in order to begin working together more.
I certainly don't fault Cohen for not attending school board meetings when he's already giving our community dozens of hours a week in public service and has a conflicting obligation.
Nice try on making that the reason he's supposedly against the schools. Have all of you attended school board meetings? If not, does that make you against the schools? I didn't think so.

Posted by not(e) for rick
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Oct 12, 2008 at 9:54 pm

Your claim to fame!. Trees for Menlo, trees for menlo, please for menlo, pleas for menlo. Just like former Mayor Chuckie. All talk, No follow through when it counts.

Hey, Rick, You, raised in MP, a landscape architect like Chuckie, so called community leaders, Never once spoke at a scold board meetin' about all the big trees goin' down at Oak Knoll.

Ever heard of stewardship? Oh, that only applies to those other towns that respect the environment.

Boyle's brigade got your tongue, so you're a bleater instead of a leader? Stanfod will roll over you like a fool. Ask the almanac.

CJ toolin her beemer around the hood like she's still the OK PIC,
belittling the locals. These transplants dish out the disrespect 'cause it bumps their egos.

Here's your chance Ricky, bang your drums for something that counts, and show your cojos. Go chill on the OK swings and get the rhythm of the ages. Something worth spreading to the masses. Don't let MG write your music. The beat's gotta be the same so even Kenny gets it. No difference, city, school, it's all about what we stand for in this community. Maybe give the next generation some sense of history that's worth saving.

You are better than those kind of people.

You got 2 weeks to really make a difference!

Posted by Paula Tix
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 12, 2008 at 11:53 pm

Bleater rather than a leader.

That's good. May have to steal it.

Posted by Bobby
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:45 pm

This blog is sinking to a new low. I'm assuming "not(e) for rick" is sitting in his boxers, in his basement thinking up more things unsubstantiated garbage that fuels the divide between people that want moderate growth and those that "I'll be 'darned' if I'll put up with improvement". The good thing though, is that all it takes is time............people get fed up with the same ol', same ol'. The clock is ticking..........

Posted by truancy officer
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:12 pm

Yo, bobbie, we think you are on the wrong forum. The other one about council campaign finance reporting has your closing "i think that's all i have to say, i wish you would deal with facts"
We moderate growthers think your adolescent hormones have become overextended.
Bobbie, we know it was fashionable among kids a few years ago to lower their jeans, but you seem to be a tad late.
Pull up your trousers, your crack's showing, go back to class.

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