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Hillary Clinton: Corporations and Businesses Don't Create Jobs

Original post made by Ich Bin Ein Socialist, Woodside: other, on Oct 25, 2014

Appearing at a Boston rally for Democrat gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley on Friday, Hillary Clinton told the crowd gathered at the Park Plaza Hotel not to listen to anybody who says that “businesses create jobs.”

“Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” Clinton said.

“You know that old theory, ‘trickle-down economics,’” she continued. “That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.”

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Posted by Context is King
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 25, 2014 at 3:05 pm

the rest of the TRUE story:

"You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly. One of the things my husband says when people ask him what he brought to Washington, he says I brought arithmetic."

Context is King

"HILLARY CLINTON: Don't let anybody tell you that its corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly. One of the things my husband says when people ask him what he brought to Washington, he says I brought arithmetic."

Bush and Reagan showed us trickle down is a fallacy.

Even Brownback in Kansas has proved it again in his "laboratory" called "screwing middle class Kansans".


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 25, 2014 at 3:42 pm

As is the case with all on the left, Hillary obviously knows nothing about capitalism, economics, or enterprise. Hillary Clinton is a moron who is simply parroting Socialist propaganda that someone spoon fed her. Much like Obama, the woman cannot even construct a cogent sentence on her own, let alone run a capitalistic society filled with free born people.


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 25, 2014 at 5:24 pm

“You know that old theory, ‘trickle-down economics,’” she continued. “That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.”

As opposed to the ram-it-down-your-throat economics of her wonderful socialism. Please tell me Hillary, name ONE successful socialist country. And remember, when you name a country, I get to name North Korea under the Kims — Germany under Hitler — Cuba under Castro — China under Mao and his successors (remember Tiananmen Square?) — Cambodia under Pol Pot — Zimbabwe under Mugabe — the Soviet Union under Stalin and his successors (didn’t that country break up because it couldn’t keep up with the booming trickle-down economy of Ronald Reagan?)

When will socialism finally be judged on the reality of its failures rather than on its lofty promises?


Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 25, 2014 at 6:04 pm

Menlo Voter is a registered user.

"When will socialism finally be judged on the reality of its failures rather than on its lofty promises?"

Ask Europe [portion removed.]


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 25, 2014 at 9:34 pm

Ignoring human nature, socialism is an ideology that dooms itself from the start. By assuming the implicit virtue of common interest without individual empowerment, socialism opens the door to the worst of individualism. It is in fact the very opposite of what it claims to be. It is an agent of the powerful “special” against the broader society, and an agenda of stagnation against opportunity. And today, because of it, Europe rots in economic pain and social tension.


Posted by Hank
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Oct 26, 2014 at 2:33 pm


Clinton: balanced the budget, left two surpluses, job creation of 22 million jobs


Bush: worst recession in our lifetime, took a surplus and ran the first-ever trillion dollar deficit, job losses of 800,000 PER MONTH as he left.


Reagan: tripled the national debt while enacting the largest middle class tax hike in history


Trickle down is demonstrably evil (except for the 1%). As Context noted, see Brownback's disastrous tax cuts and Kansas' impending bankruptcy.


Take you unfounded hate elsewhere! ("Hillary Clinton is a moron")


Posted by PA Moderate
a resident of another community
on Oct 26, 2014 at 6:06 pm

Reagan's budget director David Stockman disowned trickle-down economics and even wrote 30 years ago that it was a Trojan Horse for cutting top tax rates. Our nation has been really hampered by ideologues who have nevertheless continued to carry it.


Posted by neighbor
a resident of another community
on Oct 26, 2014 at 7:25 pm

Hilary Clinton is NOT A SOCIALIST.......FAR FROM IT.

Are Republicans going to throw the "Socialist" label at Democrats at every opportunity for the next 2 years?

Really? Is that all they've got? YUP Pretty pathetic.


Posted by Socialism
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 26, 2014 at 10:20 pm

"Don't let anybody tell you that its corporations and businesses that create jobs."

Dunno if Hillary is a true socialist, but that's definitely a socialist statement. If businesses don't create jobs, I suppose she believes government does. Now that is something that has been tried and failed.


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 26, 2014 at 10:21 pm

Hillary Clinton's comments speak very well of her ideology. For those who missed it: "Don't let anybody tell you it's corporations and businesses create jobs."

She is trying to eliminate Elizabeth Warren as her competition. A move that will get her the nomination and cost her the election.

America, is tired of Obama's failed Socialist experiment and we certainly are not going to vote for a continuation of it. And the voters will never, for one moment, see her as the equivalent to her husband. Her husband, with the good advice of Dick Morris, did triangulate and compromised with Newt Gingrich to come back to the center after a disastrous first two years. Not only is Hillary incapable of compromise she is unwilling to do that as well.

So why would America vote for someone as intransigent and ideologically bent so far to the left as her?

She will get the "Left Coast", Illinois, and the Northeast; but that won't be enough to get her to 270.

Dasvidaniya Hillary.


Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 27, 2014 at 6:54 am

Sounds like your prediction about the last election and Romney, [portion removed]. How'd that prediction work out for you?


Posted by Jack
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Oct 27, 2014 at 9:42 am

" "Don't let anybody tell you that its corporations and businesses that create jobs." - Dunno if Hillary is a true socialist, but that's definitely a socialist statement. "

Dunno if the poster is just stupid to take a single line out of context, but that's definitely a stupid statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"HILLARY CLINTON: Don't let anybody tell you that its corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly. One of the things my husband says when people ask him what he brought to Washington, he says I brought arithmetic."


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"America, is tired of Obama's failed Socialist experiment" which is why McCain beat Obama. Why Sarah Palin left Alaska for DC. And why we worship at the outsourcing fee of President Mittens, the 47 percenter. They both lost by 5 million votes, didn't they?

Ich bin/Hank: which republican will beat Hillary if she runs? Name one. Name three.

Better switch subjects to the GOP takeover of the senate for the two years before team blue takes it back in 2016. With the House.

Dasvidaniya.



Posted by neighbor
a resident of another community
on Oct 27, 2014 at 9:46 am

Someone needs to go back to school to learn what "socialism" means.

There are no socialists in mainstream American politics. Calling Democrats socialists is just so much childish name-calling and it suggests a position of total weakness.

--- At best, this seems rather like naive schoolyard behavior instead of adult political discourse.

--- At worst, it's an eerie reminder of 1950s McCarthyism.


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 28, 2014 at 7:59 am

And who was sitting second chair next to McCarthy? Why it was none other than beloved Democrat Senator Robert Francis Kennedy- Jack Kennedy's brother, former Attorney General of the United States, and 1968 Presidential candidate for the Democratic Party.

What liberals are loathe to admit was that the Democratic Party was a willing participant in the witch hunt. BTW, the Venona Decrypts were declassified in 1996 and confirmed McCarthy's and Kennedy's allegations that U.S. citizen and former State Department Employee Alger Hiss was a Soviet Union spy.


Posted by COLONIALIST!
a resident of Woodside High School
on Oct 28, 2014 at 8:16 am

Nice stuff above not addressed by Hank:

"Clinton: balanced the budget, left two surpluses, job creation of 22 million jobs
Bush: worst recession in our lifetime, took a surplus and ran the first-ever trillion dollar deficit, job losses of 800,000 PER MONTH as he left.
Reagan: tripled the national debt while enacting the largest middle class tax hike in history
Trickle down is demonstrably evil (except for the 1%)."


Probably continue to ignore or blame Obama.


Posted by COLONIALIST!
a resident of Woodside High School
on Oct 28, 2014 at 8:20 am

Nice stuff above not addressed by Hank:

"Clinton: balanced the budget, left two surpluses, job creation of 22 million jobs
Bush: worst recession in our lifetime, took a surplus and ran the first-ever trillion dollar deficit, job losses of 800,000 PER MONTH as he left.
Reagan: tripled the national debt while enacting the largest middle class tax hike in history
Trickle down is demonstrably evil (except for the 1%)."


Probably continue to ignore or blame Obama.


Posted by neighbor
a resident of another community
on Oct 28, 2014 at 8:29 am

Just as Mr./Ms. "Ich Bein" fears that some left-wing conspiracy, a lot of other folks fear a right-wing conspiracy these days. Heard of the Koch brothers?

60 years ago, McCarthyism was a widespread mental illness of irrational fear --- after which there was a lot of regret by politicians and citizens who naively signed on to the witch hunt. Thank God that Edward R. Murrow had the courage to begin the outcry against McCarthy, and Robert Kennedy had the gumption to regret his role.

To repeat......It is totally outrageous to suggest that Hilary Clinton or other Democrats are communists.

I wish that political discourse would stick to the actual issues at-hand. THAT, not name calling, is the American Way.


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 28, 2014 at 9:08 am

President Bill Clinton

Jan. 20, 1993*: $4,188,092,107,183.60
Jan. 20, 2001: $5,727,776,738,304.64
Days in Office: 2,922
Compounded Annual Growth Rate: 3.99%

The partnership of the Republican Congress with a Democratic President showed a very restrained growth in the deficit. Both Newt Gingrich and President Bill Clinton deserve a lot of credit for being able to compromise for the good of America.

During the first 2 years of the Clinton presidency with a Democratic Congress the national debt rose 628 Billion Dollars or $314 Billion/year.

During the last 6 years of the Clinton presidency with a Republican Congress the national debt rose 982 Billion Dollars or $163.67 Billion/year.

With the Republican Congress Bill Clinton was able to shrink the annual growth in the deficit by over 50% when compared to the Democrat Congress.


Posted by Ich Bin Ein Socialist
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 28, 2014 at 9:33 am

The National Debt by Fiscal Year. The U.S. Treasury Report goes by Government Fiscal Year which is slightly off from the Presidential year. For Instance 3 months and 20 days of FY93 were during Bush 41's term. I don't see any surpluses.

Date National Debt Increase in deficit
9/30/1992 4,064,620
9/30/1993 4,411,488 346,868
9/30/1994 4,692,749 281,261
9/30/1995 4,973,982 281,233
9/30/1996 5,224,810 250,828
9/30/1997 5,413,146 188,336
9/30/1998 5,526,193 113,047
9/30/1999 5,656,270 130,077
9/30/2000 5,674,178 17,908
9/30/2001 5,807,463 133,285


Posted by da Nile
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 28, 2014 at 11:29 am

Ich bin will also deny that W ran the first trillion dollar deficit.

And deny the Bush Great Recession, as well.


Posted by da Nile
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Oct 28, 2014 at 11:32 am

Why did Bush fail with a GOP house and senate?


Posted by pogo
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 28, 2014 at 11:35 am

pogo is a registered user.

These spats always remind me of the who was worse arguments - Willy Sutton or Al Capone.

If you think EITHER our of political parties has the high ground when it comes to taxes, spending and deficits, then you haven't been paying attention.


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