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Man arrested after reportedly firing gun in home with toddlers inside

Original post made on Apr 10, 2019

A 33-year-old man was arrested Monday after allegedly firing his gun in a home in unincorporated Menlo Park in which two toddlers were in the next room over, according to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Posted by safety first
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 10, 2019 at 1:18 pm

Another "responsible gun owner", that we hear so much about.

Remember: a gun in the home is 11 times more likely to be used to harm someone in the home than for defense.

It is more dangerous to have a gun in the home.


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Posted by Amy Lynn Baxter
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Apr 10, 2019 at 6:36 pm

Ms Safety First, most gun owners, unlike the one in the article ARE responsible. We keep our firearms in purpose build gun safes, and we follow accepted firearms handling rules. Using a case such as this to illustrate that gun ownership is dangerous is just irresponsible. Please get educated before making such broad generalizations.


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Posted by resident
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 10, 2019 at 7:13 pm

Ms Amy Lynn Baxter - how do we require all gun owners to be responsible? The vast majority of USA gun deaths are from legally bought and owned guns that were used irresponsibly.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 10, 2019 at 8:42 pm

Menlo Voter. is a registered user.

resident:

67% of those gun deaths were suicides. So, how do we stop people from using weapons they are constitutionally allowed to own from using them to kill themselves. Not to mention, how do we stop people from using the statistic cited above to frighten people. After all the majority of "gun deaths" cited above are suicides, not murders. Those suicides could just as easily have been achieved by different means. The gun is simply a tool, like an axe or a knife. Both of those can be used to commit murder or suicide, by the way.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 10, 2019 at 8:43 pm

Menlo Voter. is a registered user.

resident:

67% of those gun deaths were suicides. So, how do we stop people from using weapons they are constitutionally allowed to own from using them to kill themselves. Not to mention, how do we stop people from using the statistic cited above to frighten people? After all the majority of "gun deaths" cited above are suicides, not murders. Those suicides could just as easily have been achieved by different means. The gun is simply a tool, like an axe or a knife. Both of those can be used to commit murder or suicide, by the way.


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Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Apr 10, 2019 at 8:48 pm

Had this person gotten angry and taken his car and rammed it into someone else's vehicle or driven like an idiot and hit a person, a house, a tree... he would probably have his license taken away in addition to any charges. He would have been able to get that license back in probably 1 year or at most 3 years.

The difference here is that because he used a gun he will face charges and will most likely lose his ability to legally own firearms, not for a year but probably for life. At a minimum he will have to appeal that restriction to a judge who can decide to keep it permanent or restore his ability after many years.


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Posted by Wrong Again
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 11, 2019 at 12:54 am

Brian, that's BS

Charges were filed because suspect was mentally unstable and unfit to own a gun.

Good implementation of the law, giving authorities/law enforcement an angle to forbid him to never legally touch a gun again.

Same should be applied to all who use their car as a weapon. Driving privileges revoked for ever.


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Posted by Wrong again
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 11, 2019 at 12:59 am

Should read:

"giving law enforcement an angle to forbid him to EVER legally touch a gun again".


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Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Apr 11, 2019 at 8:46 am

Wrong,

You pretty much made the same point I made. He will be banned from ever owning guns legally again. While I do not disagree with you that a person doing the same type of thing with a vehicle SHOULD be banned for driving for life they certainly are not. So what part of my statement above is "BS"?


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Posted by safety first
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 11, 2019 at 8:57 am

A gun in the home is 11 times more likely to be used to harm someone in the home than for defense.

Yes, that includes self-inflicted injury and also suicide. The facts remain:

A gun in the home is 11 times more likely to be used to harm someone in the home than for defense.



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Posted by safety first
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 11, 2019 at 9:01 am

Specifically, in 2016:

- 22,938 people committed suicide by firearm
- 14,415 people died in gun homicides

Source: CDC

A gun in the home is 11 times more likely to be used to harm someone in the home than for defense.

It is more dangerous to have a gun in the home.


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Posted by Cold Dead Hands Heston
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Apr 11, 2019 at 9:18 am

@Safety First - So what.

42,000 Opioid deaths in 2016
1.2 million road deaths a year
50 million disabled by vehicles each year
5,000 people die from poisoning in their own homes each year

Do we outlaw medicine, cars, trucks, and any household cleaner that might be misused? Ridiculous. maybe we should hire someone to follow each of us around every day, and then someone to watch them in case they miss something. Or maybe compulsory mental hath screenings once a month? Pretty soon you have your big brother nanny state.

Ther are over 100 million gun owners in the United States. 14K homicides. I’d say we’re all pretty safe.


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Posted by Christopher Green
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 11, 2019 at 9:22 am

Thank you keeping that name out of the article! You would hate to have people that live near me, er, the shooter have that knowledge.


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Posted by safety first
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 11, 2019 at 9:39 am

> Do we outlaw medicine, cars, trucks...

Silly deflection, but I'll play, since you seem emotionally attached. Perhaps to cars, as well (no worries, mate, I love cars too!)

We demand proof of ability, annual registration, proof of insurance, occasional re-testing for licenses of cars.

I'm okay with similar requirements for those that seek to part of a well-regulated militia.

nonetheless: It is more dangerous to have a gun in the home.

A gun in the home is 11 times more likely to be used to harm someone in the home than for defense.

The numbers show us it's demonstrably safer without a gun in the home. So if it isn't logic, it must be emotion.

Fact: It is more dangerous to have a gun in the home.




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Posted by Clunge
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Apr 11, 2019 at 9:59 am

Anyone’s opinion changed yet on this issue or should we argue more?


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Posted by safety first
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 11, 2019 at 10:13 am

> Anyone’s opinion changed yet on this issue or should we argue more?

No arguing, just statement of facts. Well, there's some emotion on one of the sides, obviously.

fwiw, I did indeed change from a previously held position. Travel overseas and review of numbers were factors. Knowing a couple of folks who should not have been able to possess was a frightening factor, as well.

I miss the ranges. I go to the batting cages instead; it satisfies a need.

TMI?

;-)


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Posted by Gal
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 11, 2019 at 2:47 pm

I've struck gun owners off my list - there is too much emotion tied up with their guns. Not healthy. Apparently, the numbers indicate it isn't safe either.

This shooter should be prosecuted to the full extent.


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Posted by Alan
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Apr 11, 2019 at 6:15 pm

@ Cold Dead Hands Heston wrote:

"1.2 million road deaths a year
50 million disabled by vehicles each year"

Actually,

"Statistics show that each year,43,000 or more of the United States’ population die due to vehicular accidents and around 2.9 million people end up suffering light or severe injuries."

Maybe you were quoting numbers for the entire world, but had no clue. In any case .... I don't think you know how to safely handle statistics. ;)


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 11, 2019 at 6:28 pm

Menlo Voter. is a registered user.

"Ther are over 100 million gun owners in the United States. 14K homicides. I’d say we’re all pretty safe."

And if congress hadn't forbid the CDC to determine if those murders were gang related or related to other criminal activity, thus skewing the statistics or shading them at a minimum, we might have some realistic statistics that are meaningful.


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Posted by Grizzly
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Apr 12, 2019 at 12:11 pm

We must preserve the right to arm bears! 2nd Amendment.


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Posted by Barely
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Apr 13, 2019 at 9:23 pm

Armed Bears will shoot themselves more than unarmed bears.


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Posted by Cold Dead Hands Heston
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Apr 16, 2019 at 11:58 am

@ Alan - So I was quoting Global Statistics. Does it make you feel better that it’s only 43,000 Americans? Maybe you believe, like your Dear Leader Trump that only Americans count? I know, you hate globalism.

The point stands, a lot of hand wringing but in the end, no one really cares except the cowards that are afraid of guns. I have my guns today, and I will have them in 50 years. And for all of the whining, many other things will kill more people each and every year and no one will do anything about those either.


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