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Rainbow flag stolen three times from Menlo Park church

Original post made on Sep 4, 2019

When the Rev. Gia Hayes-Martin arrived at the Menlo Park church she leads on Aug. 10 for a funeral, she was disappointed to find that the gay pride rainbow flag the church displays on its front sign was gone.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Posted by MAGA
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Sep 4, 2019 at 2:33 pm

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Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Sep 4, 2019 at 2:56 pm

Make America great again by stealing from a church. Trump logic...


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Posted by resident
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Sep 4, 2019 at 3:09 pm

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Posted by Sharpie'd Weather Map
a resident of Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
on Sep 4, 2019 at 3:23 pm

He'll get Mexico to pay for the Rainbow Flag.


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Posted by Rev. Amy Zucker Morgenstern
a resident of another community
on Sep 4, 2019 at 6:37 pm

On behalf of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto, I want to express our gratitude to St. Bede's for its faithful persistence, and our dismay that such a warm Christian message has been met with vandalism.

The necessity for churches that welcome all, including LGBTQA folks, is never so clear as at moments like this. We are called to create a better world and it's an honor to share that calling with our Episcopal kindred up the road. Whatever we can do to support you, let us know!

Blessings!


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Posted by wwjd with our village?
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 4, 2019 at 8:25 pm

wwjd, y'all?


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Sep 5, 2019 at 8:29 am

Menlo Voter. is a registered user.

"wwjd, y'all?"

Turn the other cheek.


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Posted by Rev. Dr. Eileen Altman
a resident of another community
on Sep 5, 2019 at 12:49 pm

Rev. Dr. Eileen Altman is a registered user.

On behalf of First Congregational Church of Palo Alto, UCC, a church which also enthusiastically welcomes and affirms our LGBTQ+ neighbors, I wish to express our solidarity with St. Bede's. Thank you for your faithful witness to God's radically inclusive welcome to all. Feel free to call on us for support and encouragement.


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Posted by Jane Gill
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Sep 5, 2019 at 1:12 pm

I hope St. Bede’s recovers their rainbow flag(s).

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Posted by Cameras and eyeballs now
a resident of another community
on Sep 5, 2019 at 1:40 pm

We'll catch the person doing this. Just a matter of time now.


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Posted by Pray for them
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Sep 5, 2019 at 2:24 pm

What kind of broken person does this? They need fixing.
So sad. I hope he finds love and tolerance within the light of the Lord.

One walk in the light of the Lord and he would be buying them a new flag and sobbing apologetically.
Miracles happen! Pray for the person who did this.


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Posted by pearl
a resident of another community
on Sep 5, 2019 at 6:26 pm

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
on Sep 5, 2019 at 8:35 pm

It always warms my heart to drive by the rainbow flag on St. Bede's sign.


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Posted by Alisa
a resident of Atherton: other
on Sep 6, 2019 at 6:41 am

I am a conservative Christian living in Silicon Valley and fully empathize with the gay man fighting for acceptance and visibility. As a Christian, I am not allowed to have Biblical Christian values in this area without appearing bigoted, homophobic, transphobic - everything phobic and yet the people of St. Bede’s would most likely welcome Jesus, whom I follow, into their midst. I do not condone or support theft and am sorry this happened.


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Posted by Sharpie'd Weather Map
a resident of Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
on Sep 6, 2019 at 9:06 am

> As a Christian, I am not allowed to have Biblical Christian values in this area...

Odd. Of all the repression and oppression in our area, I've never felt that, nor seen it.

I'm so sorry you feel that way. I was unaware of the local repression of Christians. In California. In America.

Perhaps Christians should meet weekly. Make a plan. Carry whistles. For example, when gays were being physically assaulted and murdered for their lifestyle ("f**-bashing" being quite common back in the day) one of the things they did was carry whistles to alert neighbors for help.

Yes, buy a whistle to prevent the beatings of Christians. There may be more tactics you can think of.

I am so sorry you have to suffer through this.


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Posted by Alisa
a resident of Atherton: other
on Sep 6, 2019 at 9:47 am

Thank you Sharpie’d for the validation.


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Posted by Proud Christian
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Sep 6, 2019 at 10:23 am

"I am not allowed to have Biblical Christian values in this area..."

I've been active in my church community for decades and I've never felt this way.
From my experiences, nobody is prohibited from expressing love and caring for all our fellow humans. Well, maybe when they stopped us from handing out food to the homeless in parks, but that got resolved.

If you incorrectly interpret Christian values as wanting discrimination against or working against certain groups of people's quest for equality under civil law simply because of who they love, that's an issue with your interpretation of Christianity, not with actual Christian Values. Also, Christian Values do not encourage theft of a symbol of unity because you oppose that unity.
Walk with the Lord and listen to him. He's about inclusive love, not exclusion.


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Posted by Kristi Iverson
a resident of another community
on Sep 6, 2019 at 10:47 am

As the social justice committee of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto (UUCPA), we were dismayed to read in The Almanac on September 4 that St. Bede's Episcopal Church in Menlo Park has three times been victimized by the theft of their LGBTQ flag and damage to their flagpole. We hereby express our solidarity with St. Bede’s and with LGTBQ people in their congregation and in the wider community. In these times of domestic and international conflict and emotional rhetoric, we cannot stay silent when such things happen. Such vandalism indicates that even here in the Bay Area there are deep divisions which need to be acknowledged. Rev. Gia Hayes-Martin, the Rector of St. Bede's, has invited people with opposing views to enter into a dialog. It is our hope and prayer that those who disagree will choose to engage in this way. Let us resolve to stand with all who seek a better world through peaceful means.

UUCPA Action Council


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Posted by Sharpie'd Weather Map
a resident of Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
on Sep 6, 2019 at 11:31 am

> Thank you Sharpie’d for the validation.

Alisa - you are welcome. I'm happy to help. We can all work together to keep you safe from the bigotry and hatred you feel you've experienced as a Christian.


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Posted by Robert
a resident of Woodside: Skywood/Skylonda
on Sep 6, 2019 at 12:31 pm

I'm sure someone can donate their game camera for a few weeks to identify the thief.
Anyone?


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Posted by ZB
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Sep 6, 2019 at 2:29 pm

ZB is a registered user.

I love to see rainbow flags outside of churches and other public building. So sorry this has happened.


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Posted by Another Christian
a resident of Woodside High School
on Sep 8, 2019 at 12:20 am

Proud Christian creates a wonderful red herring, but does little to address Alisa’s point, which is that in Silicon Valley, traditional Christian (or indeed Muslim, or Jewish) values are portrayed as “hateful”. Proud Christian does a disservice to all Christians by portraying “Christian Values” as being a fixed and unanimously-agreed concept among all Christians. Of course this is not the case (consider the decades-long debates around abortion and the death penalty). Proud Christian would be wise to keep in mind Proverbs 16:18, which has cautionary advice for the overly proud.


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Posted by Sharpie'd Weather Map
a resident of Menlo Park: South of Seminary/Vintage Oaks
on Sep 8, 2019 at 8:34 am

> traditional Christian (or indeed Muslim, or Jewish) values are portrayed as “hateful”

Other than the two mentioned, what values of yours are commonly portrayed as “hateful”?

> Proud Christian would be wise...

We are so lucky to have your wise counsel - and you to tell us of such.

I'm a fan of Proverbs 16:5, myself. Proverbs 3:34 sums it up nicely, as well.


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Posted by Vegan Terrorists
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Sep 8, 2019 at 5:52 pm

I get more oppression from vegans than I ever got for my devout beliefs.

Nor has anyone in my church been mocked or belittled.


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Posted by cubist
a resident of another community
on Sep 11, 2019 at 4:00 pm

I must admit I'm curious as to *exactly which* "Biblical Christian values" Alisa feels they are "not allowed to have", on pain of "appearing… everything phobic". While it's true that the Bible says that Christians will be persecuted for what they do in Jesus' name, it is, equally true, that Christians who behave like jerks will be "persecuted" for their jerk-like behavior, and that that jerk-like behavior has nothing at all to do with their Christian faith.


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