From recommendation to requirement, San Mateo County to enforce face masks for the public, essential employees | Town Square | Almanac Online |

Town Square

Post a New Topic

From recommendation to requirement, San Mateo County to enforce face masks for the public, essential employees

Original post made on Apr 19, 2020

San Mateo County Health Officer Dr. Scott Morrow is now explicitly requiring residents and essential employees to wear face coverings when out in the public starting this Wednesday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Saturday, April 18, 2020, 2:29 PM

Comments (26)

10 people like this
Posted by John
a resident of Woodside: Mountain Home Road
on Apr 19, 2020 at 11:44 pm

Why now? Why was it ok to not wear masks 2, 3, or 4 weeks ago? If we’ve presumably flattened the curve, then wasn’t the risk greater then?


4 people like this
Posted by Gary
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Apr 20, 2020 at 1:54 pm

The number of people who have COVID in CA, and therefore might be contagious is near it's maximum point:
Web Link
but the new recommendation has less to do with that and more to do with the recent realization that the spread is probably more airborne than had previously been recognized. It may also have to do with more mask availability.


4 people like this
Posted by Michael G. Stogner
a resident of another community
on Apr 20, 2020 at 5:55 pm

San Mateo County Sheriff's Office has recently started enforcing Dr. Scott Morrow's Orders. $1,000 fine plus.


8 people like this
Posted by John
a resident of Woodside: Mountain Home Road
on Apr 20, 2020 at 11:07 pm

It would be great if our officials would actually take time to explain these reasons for the change, rather than just issuing an order and saying “because we say so”. It might also inspire and motivate more citizens to comply.


8 people like this
Posted by Enuff
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 21, 2020 at 4:54 pm

Cotton/fabric masks over the mouth and nose create a warm, moist environment that promotes the proliferation of all kinds of pathogens. A scientific randomized controlled study in 2015 published in the medical journal BMJ cautioned against the use of cloth masks, compared with disposable ones. “Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection..."
So Dr. Scott Morrow is mandating an unsafe practice, and is threatening to lock us up in jail for 3 months and fine us up to $1000 if we don't follow his orders.
Since 99% of people have mild or moderate symptoms and recover completely, why keep prolonging the shelter-in-place that is killing our small businesses and destroying people's lives? We need to reach herd immunity as that is what ends epidemics. We've had worse virus pandemics (MERS, SARS, Ebola) with higher death rates and no one ever ordered us to change every aspect of our lives and put us under house arrest.


11 people like this
Posted by has to grind his ax
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 21, 2020 at 5:29 pm

> “Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result ..."

Geez. You couldn't bother with the very NEXT SENTENCE?!?!

"Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. "

You couldn't be bothered? Or you knew it was quite a reach just so you could do your ax grinding?

> Since 99% of people have mild or moderate symptoms and recover completely

Your link, please. The one that says 99% COMPLETELY recover.



5 people like this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 21, 2020 at 11:25 pm

Some have NO symptoms. My son in a VA hospital for other reasons, tested positive 23 days ago, and is still testing positive. He has had no symptoms, and is not being treated for the virus. Add another 0.9% for those like my son who do not have mild or moderate symptoms, and we get 99.9% survival rate. That's what Stanford and USC are approaching in their tests.


5 people like this
Posted by COVID-19 Truth
a resident of another community
on Apr 21, 2020 at 11:34 pm

Jack Hickey -- Provide links for everything you have just stated, or be considered an apologist for the -45 regime.


5 people like this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 22, 2020 at 8:03 am

The Stanford and USC tests have been thoroughly aired. I am the link for the rest of the comment. Do you doubt my veracity? I realize it is only one anecdotal fact. Make what you will of it.


5 people like this
Posted by has to grind his ax
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 22, 2020 at 9:08 am

Waiting for a link that says 99% *COMPLETELY* recover.

Breezily, and inaccurately citing and misrepresenting early incomplete studies doesn't cut it.


4 people like this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 22, 2020 at 9:29 am

I doubt that 99% will completely recover from the "fallout" of this government intervention.


4 people like this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 22, 2020 at 9:42 am

Bette Midler "From a Distance".
Web Link


8 people like this
Posted by COVID-19 Truth
a resident of another community
on Apr 22, 2020 at 11:23 am

Making things up on the fly -- yep, that's Jack Hickey for you. No *actual* facts, just a lot of hot air.

No real surprise, considering that Hickey's public career was nothing more than hot air...


11 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Apr 22, 2020 at 12:49 pm

It is time to insert some FACTS into this degenerated discussion:

"We can see that, if you’re coughed on by people who aren’t wearing masks, a 4-foot sidewalk is wayyyy riskier than a 6-foot sidewalk! But fortunately, the difference disappears when people put on masks: infection probabilities tank to near-zero.
If everyone coughs on you while passing you, you have a 19% chance of getting infected after passing 100 people in SF at a 4 foot distance, but only a 0.8% chance at a 6 foot distance. Truly, masks and distancing each make a world of difference. Masks and distancing make a god-like level of difference."

"Conclusions
After all this math, my biggest impression is a hopeful one. The virus may be scary, but our quotidian safeguards of masks, sanitizing, and social distancing can protect us in meaningful and understandable ways.
The numbers show that we should take these defenses seriously. Stay six feet apart (not four!), wear masks, sanitize religiously — and don’t touch your face!"


Web Link


2 people like this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 22, 2020 at 1:19 pm

Peter, that ought to satisfy the FACT seekers!
I'd like to see some statistics on how many people wore masks before COVID-19 because it was the right thing to do when you might infect someone with your malady. From my observations, I'd say it's a few percent. Thank you to those considerate people. And, if your whole family is sick, please S.I.P.


2 people like this
Posted by David Petrovay
a resident of another community
on Apr 22, 2020 at 1:49 pm

I live in Redwood City. Today was supposed to be the first day in which San Mateo County residents were required to wear masks when in public. Within a short time today I observed at least two dozen people on the streets without face masks. The good news is that everyone in the stores was complying. Is it that people haven't been informed of this requirement or that they just don't care?


2 people like this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 22, 2020 at 2:01 pm

Maybe they're allergic to masks? Or, consider them to be a health risk if worn full time. They should carry a note from their doctor, unless they self-medicate.


2 people like this
Posted by Baysider
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Apr 22, 2020 at 2:02 pm


@David Petrovay

Here is the link to the order:
Web Link

People on the street have to do distancing, but do not have to wear face coverings.


12 people like this
Posted by has to grind his ax
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 22, 2020 at 2:30 pm

> Maybe they're allergic to masks? ... should carry a note from their doctor, unless they self-medicate.

C'mon Jack. Weren't you the guy looking for an open golf course a couple weeks ago? We get where you're going with the fringe, libertarian "big gub'mint is evil and we need to open up" theme.

Why, according to numerous (half a dozen? in all *fifty* states, organized by the same astro-turf group) protests around the country this last week, literally *hundreds* of like-minded lost souls (out of 330 million) agree with you.

Enough.


9 people like this
Posted by Magster
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 23, 2020 at 1:04 pm

The term fully recover is generally a misnomer when applied to those who get sick from the virus. It is used to describe anyone who has had the virus but survived. Anyone who has had a serious infection is not likely to have the same lung capacity as they did before hand. You might want consider this before thinking it is OK to contract the disease.


1 person likes this
Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 23, 2020 at 2:18 pm

Citations on lung capacity, short term and long term would be helpful.


3 people like this
Posted by COVID-19 Truth
a resident of another community
on Apr 23, 2020 at 3:00 pm

We're still waiting on your citations, Hickey...so where are they?


1 person likes this
Posted by magster
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 23, 2020 at 4:07 pm

I have seen reports from doctors on this but did not keep documents. You seem to have time on your hands. You do the research.


1 person likes this
Posted by magster
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 23, 2020 at 4:33 pm

Link to long term damage from covid-19
Web Link


3 people like this
Posted by Jo Ann Arneson
a resident of another community
on Apr 23, 2020 at 7:45 pm

It is interesting that Jack Hickey uses his actual name whereas those who criticize him do not. I think The Almanac should publish only comments with actual names.


1 person likes this
Posted by COVID-19 Truth
a resident of another community
on Apr 23, 2020 at 8:06 pm

Fine then, Jo Ann -- are you willing to pay for the security/internet protection that I will need when the crazies come after me?

Thought so.

And stop defending Hickey, he's not worth the time or effort.


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

Get fact-based reporting on the COVID-19 crisis sent to your inbox daily.

Palo Alto's Mayfield Bakery & Cafe permanently closes after 11-year run
By Elena Kadvany | 18 comments | 15,025 views

City staff is running Palo Alto
By Diana Diamond | 24 comments | 3,164 views

Couples: Are you Committed to your Vows or Dysfunction?
By Chandrama Anderson | 0 comments | 1,466 views

Kids and sugar: A cautionary tale
By Sherry Listgarten | 8 comments | 1,367 views

Preparing for School
By Cheryl Bac | 0 comments | 521 views