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Pro-Trump business owner documented at Capitol invasion rally faces backlash

Original post made on Jan 8, 2021

Some people are threatening a boycott of a Menlo Park business after it came to light that its owner attended a pro-Trump rally on Jan. 6 in which a mob violently invaded the U.S. Capitol.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, January 8, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Posted by Joseph E. Davis
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Jan 8, 2021 at 7:29 pm

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God forbid there should be a minority political opinion held by a citizen in Menlo Park! We must redouble our efforts for 100% conformity.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 8, 2021 at 7:36 pm

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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 8, 2021 at 7:41 pm

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Being at that particular "rally" is a little more than just "holding a minority political opinion". And you know it.


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Posted by Petra Karenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 8, 2021 at 9:14 pm

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University of Wisconsin Constitutional Law Professor Ann Althouse sees no evidence of Trump’s incitement to riot in his speech.

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 8, 2021 at 9:26 pm

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She, as a business owner, has the right to support whatever causes/mobs she wishes.

We, as her customers, have the right to choose not to patronize her business based on our disgust with her values.


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Posted by Thoughtful
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jan 8, 2021 at 10:12 pm

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Very dangerous stuff going on here. There was a protest in DC. Many of the protestors crossed a line and broke the law. They deserve consequences. Protestors who were there to protest and did just that did not cross any legal lines. Whether you agree or disagree with what she believes in has nothing to do with this.

Are the posters like Peter saying there can be no such distinction (protesting versus lawlessness)? Because, there certainly was such a distinction for left wing protests over the summer and I for one supported the distinction then.

If you have evidence this business owner broke into the capitol, produce it. Otherwise, she deserves the assumption she was there to protest lawfully. This is her right as an American.

She should not be "outed" by the Almanac, and she should not have her way of life or business threatened. This is not what this country is about.

Committing a "domestic act of terrorism and blatant display of white supremacy" is a very serious allegation and expressing disagreement with how this election was conducted through public protest does not rise anything close to this level. There is no evidence I have seen she has done anything more.


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Posted by Petra Karenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 9, 2021 at 6:28 am

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Sad day, sad week, sad year.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 8:23 am

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Thoughtful - You make a good point however one can object to someone's participation in a peaceful rally if the purpose of that rally is to support a deplorable position. I would certainly not support a business person who attended a KKK rally even if that person did not then participate in a lynching.

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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 8:57 am

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Thoughtful:

you are right. She may not have supported or participated in the insurrection. But she does support a deplorable person with deplorable opinions and policies. For that reason I choose not to do business with her. You don't get to support a racist and claim you're not a racist. If you support a racist you are de facto a racist. She has every right to think that way and support whomever she wants. I have every right to refuse to do business with people that think that way. Free speech is free, but it can also have consequences.


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Posted by Thoughtful
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 9:02 am

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For what it's worth, all the information I had seen about this rally was "Stop the Steal", "Support Trump". Admittedly I did not go to the rally, but it is not clear to me that if someone decided they had problems with how the election was conducted, they went to this rally knowing beforehand that violence would be a major part of it.

This also seems consistent with the level of police preparedness in the capitol. If it had been common knowledge this would occur, there would have been a lot more police and security involved. To me, this is the key point.

For these reasons, I cannot conclude that the business owner must have known that she was sanctioning a break in to the capitol. She deserves the benefit of the doubt that she was there to protest a political issue.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 9:07 am

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 9:37 am

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Trump was very clear that he wanted to overturn a lawful election that had been certified by all fifty states.

IMHO that is an assault on our democracy and anyone supporting such a position is, at best, demonstrating poor judgement.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 9:44 am

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The participants cannot argue that they did not know that there would be violence. Here was what was posted:

"You can go to Washington on Jan 6 and help storm the Capital" said one 8kun user a day before the siege."As may patriots as can be. We will storm the government buildings, kill cops, kill security guards, kill federal employees and agents, and demand a recount."


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 9:54 am

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Thoughtful:

The police preparedness was an absolute and utter failure. Even a small review of social media running up to the "rally" would give anyone with two brain cells the intel they needed to properly prepare. Police were offered aid by the National Guard before and it was declined. It's the reason the Chief resigned.

And you're right, you can't conclude the owner supported the insurrection. But you can conclude she supported Trump (she had a Trump flag wrapped around her shoulders and was wearing a MAGA hat) and she was in a crowd where there were people wearing t-shirts that were anti-semitic (6 million wasn't enough). She chose to stay and participate.

At a minimum she's totally tone deaf. She didn't think that in this area it might not be seen as "cool" to the people that live here?


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Posted by storming the capitol
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 9, 2021 at 10:20 am

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How does a woman get injured at "a peaceful rally"?

There's a lot of video to review that may yield the whole story.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 10:27 am

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President Donald Trump "was trying to stage a coup" by inciting his supporters to storm the Capitol, but it failed because the military did not join in, Fiona Hill, who was a national-security official under Trump, told The Daily Beast.

A mob of Trump's supporters violently stormed the Capitol building on Wednesday, hours after the president urged them to "fight much harder" to overturn the election result.

They broke police lines and entered the building through broken doors and windows before ransacking lawmakers' offices and entering the House and Senate chambers.

Hill, who was an advisor on Russia from 2017 to 2019, suggested that an intervention from all 10 living former defense secretaries this week had prevented armed forces from becoming involved in a coup attempt.

"The president was trying to stage a coup," she told The Daily Beast. "There was little chance of it happening, but there was enough chance that the former defense secretaries had to put out that letter, which was the final nail through that effort.

"They prevented the military from being involved in any coup attempt. But instead, Trump tried to incite it himself.

"This could have turned into a full-blown coup had he had any of those key institutions following him," Hill said.

She added that "just because it failed or didn't succeed doesn't mean it wasn't real."

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 10:33 am

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Just in case anyone is considering going to the Jan 20 "protest" rallies please be warned:

"Calls for widespread protests on the days leading up to the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden have been rampant online for weeks. These demonstrations are scheduled to culminate with what organizers have dubbed a “Million Militia March” on Jan. 20 as Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala D. Harris are to be sworn in on the same Capitol grounds that rioters overran on Wednesday.

As with the online chatter ahead of that assault on the Capitol, these calls to action have bristled with violent talk and vows to bring guns to Washington in defiance of the city’s strict weapons laws. "


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 11:57 am

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Thoughtful:

In case you or anyone else had any doubt of Suzie's' support of Trump: Web Link

She donated over $44,000 to Trump or Trump affiliates. Trump has made no secret of his desire to overthrow the election. Suzie donated $500 on November 10. Trump was already making it clear at that time that he didn't accept the election results and would not accept the election results. Makes one wonder if she really did support insurrection.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 11:58 am

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Peter:

onw would hope the National Guard and police will have a HEAVY presence come 1/20.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 12:01 pm

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(via NBC News):

In the wake of Wednesday’s riot at the Capitol, Trump supporters with extremist views feel emboldened and are vowing to return to Washington for the upcoming inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden on January 20, using online platforms to rally each other.

“Many of Us will return on January 19, 2021, carrying Our weapons, in support of Our nation's resolve, towhich [sic] the world will never forget!!! We will come in numbers that no standing army or police agency can match,” wrote a popular Parler user who frequently posts about QAnon, and is being tracked by the Anti-Defamation League.

Parler, Telegram chat rooms and the platform TheDonald.win were all used to plan and coordinate the Jan. 6 rally that turned into a riot. Posters explicitly stated their intentions to “occupy” the Capitol. QAnon conspiracy theorists and people associated with militia groups had a visible presence in Wednesday’s crowd.

“Round 2 on January 20th. This time no mercy. I don’t even care about keeping Trump in power. I care about war,” an anonymous person posted on the platform TheDonald.win, which is filled with comments posted by people who lauded those who rioted Wednesday as “heroes.”


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 12:02 pm

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And a "senior Trump official" finally comes to the conclusion that Trump is a fascist.

Web Link

“This is confirmation of so much that everyone has said for years now — things that a lot of us thought were hyperbolic. We’d say, ‘Trump’s not a fascist,’ or ‘He’s not a wannabe dictator.’ Now, it’s like, ‘Well, what do you even say in response to that now?’”

“There’s not a single person I have talked to at any level, from 23-year-old assistants to members of the Cabinet, who are not disgusted and ashamed with what has happened,” the senior administration official said


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on Jan 9, 2021 at 12:17 pm

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For me, it's not a matter of Tinsley being a store owner. She and others have every right to voice their political views. But, what happened in Washington was rioting and sedition.

If this wasn't what Tinsley and others expected, they should publicly condemn the rioting and sedition -- and the President who incited it.


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Posted by kbehroozi
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jan 9, 2021 at 2:50 pm

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I really value civility and hate mob tactics. I worry that the strangers gleefully blasting Suzi Tinsley all over social media and leaving fake Yelp reviews of her store are
a) not actually helping anyone and
b) probably actively contributing to reverse polarization, which hurts our ability to collectively address issues like COVID-19, global threats, climate change, etc.

But this incident has also led me to reflect on the ways in which our manners, conflict avoidance, and subconscious classism/racism, etc. can obscure and even perpetuate (or at least fail to check) genuine bad behavior in our midst.

It's comforting to imagine that there's a bright line between alt-right/Proud Boy/Oath Keeper/white nationalist types, whom we stereotype as OTHER–and the establishment Republicans who support Trump because of his tax policy and host fun parties at Menlo Circus Club. That does not appear to be a wholly accurate distinction: many participants of the actual Capitol invasion are now being outed as parents, grandparents, elected officials, CEOs, decorated military veterans. A quick glance at the “Right Wing Politics” group on our local NextDoor reveals astonishing radical viewpoints being espoused by shockingly normal-seeming people. Not wholly “other”, after all.

I have no idea whether Mrs. Tinsley was part of the mob that desecrated the Capitol, or whether she subscribes to the whole range of racist/authoritarian viewpoints that were manifest in that gathering. I do know, from watching videos of the event, that the rhetoric at the rally was not peaceful. I know that mainstream media outlets were signaling for days ahead of time that violence could occur. (Examples: Web Link , Web Link, Web Link, Web Link, Congress had been forewarned, prepared with gas masks and go bags. I have difficulty believing that anyone locked into the media ecosystem promoting the event walked in completely blind. It would be like showing up at Burning Man and expecting an atmosphere of complete sobriety.

Regardless of Mrs. Tinsley's intent/awareness/actual actions in DC (which we don't have full info about), her actions closer to home–and our response to them, and those like them–bear increased scrutiny.

I heard from a fellow parent this week that Mrs. Tinsley told her high-school-age employees that COVID was a hoax and masks were stupid. Did anyone push back on that? keep their kids away from her store, tell them to buy their Hot Tamales from the masked and hardworking employees at Walgreen's or Draeger's? I'm gonna guess that, social norms and distinctions being what they are, the answer is no–at least, not in any kind of significant numbers. And that’s understandable. We've been trained to steer clear of unpleasant topics and avoid rocking the boat, especially when the people behaving questionably are wealthy and/or powerful. We call it politeness, or minding our own business, but surely our fear of near-term conflict and longer-term social opprobrium also comes into play.

Trump, whose behavior from day one was norm-defying (if not outright illegal), relied on the norm-following behavior of fellow elected Republicans, as well as their fear of being criticized or losing an election. “Take him seriously but not literally” they said. It's wild to read that NOW his staff are saying that maybe he was actually a little bit fascist, to see the Wall Street Journal calling for his resignation, etc–now when the metaphorical frog is thoroughly boiled.

Bringing it back to Menlo Park: when we fail to check bad behavior among our peers and acquaintances, we are in our own way as complicit as the Senate and House Republicans who failed to tell their voters the truth, or actively buttressed Trump's fraudulent attempts to "stop the steal." Sure, it’s uncomfortable to tell your friend or kid’s coach that they’re out of line, or nudge them gently in a better direction. Maybe it backfires. But consider the alternative.

A couple of years ago, waiting for my son to finish his martial arts class, I sat amid strangers in the stands at a Little League game in Burgess Park, soaking in the sunlight and Norman Rockwell-esque panorama. Out of the blue, a young adolescent boy on my right told his friend an astonishingly racist, xenophobic, and violent joke. Before I could respond, the dad on the other side said “(name), WHERE did you hear that!?” “My dad,” replied the boy. It got awkward, and the other dad mumbled something about “we don’t say those kinds of things out loud.” Minutes later, the kid walked away with his father, who turned out to be the team coach.

There’s a lot of space and potential for good on the continuum between embarrassed silence and public shaming. I really hope that at some point that other parent had a chat with the coach, describing his concerns about the joke and its potential impact. I really hope that the parent of Suzi Tinsley’s high school employee contacted her and insisted that responsible COVID protocols be followed, regardless of her personal beliefs. And I hope that when I’m in a similar awkward position, I choose bravery and kindness over comfort and complicity.


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Posted by An MA parent
a resident of Menlo Park: University Heights
on Jan 9, 2021 at 5:32 pm

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Politics aside, why would I want to frequent a business where the owner clearly doesn't take covid seriously? She got on a plane and was maskless - during a pandemic. There's no way I'd go to her store.


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Posted by Some Perspective
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jan 9, 2021 at 6:40 pm

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The crowd was shouting "Hang Mike Pence," but fortunately the Vice President was not injured. Several people died, including a police officer that was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump reportedly enjoyed watching the siege on TV while blocking the National Guard from being deployed.

I don't believe Ms. Tinsley would chant about hanging the Vice President or bludgeon a police officer to death, but the President would appreciate her more if she were to show more enthusiasm. In Trump's original video post he said, "we love you, you're special" about the insurrectionists. It's time for true patriots in DC to cut this wannabe dictator loose.


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Posted by Menlo Park Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jan 9, 2021 at 6:54 pm

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Have we become so intolerant that we can't tolerate political opinions that differ from ours?
If we shout down, shutdown and runout of town, people whose politics we don't like, we create a kind of soft totalitarianism that someday we may be on the receiving end of. The article notes that 78% of voters supported Biden. So, almost 1 in 4 San Mateo County voters supported Trump, but they are largely invisible because of what we are doing to this woman. In the cynical pursuit of power, our political leaders are demonizing the opposition which makes it impossible to strike compromises with them. We're being manipulated into a faux choice between two increasingly extreme ideologies. It won't end well. We fought the Revolutionary War to rid ourselves of leaders that enriched themselves and their friends at our expense. Leaders from both parties send their children to private schools, while opposing school choice; they tolerate crime and vagrancy while retreating to gated communities, and they protect themselves with AI-enabled private security while tolerating a rising tide of crime. They distract us with heated political fights, while they make policies for the rest of us that effectively don't apply to them. We need to wake up before it's too late.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 6:59 pm

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Ms. Tinsley is certainly free to post on this Forum explain why she did what she did and refuting any false claims made against her.

I would welcome her participation in this dialogue.


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Posted by Thoughtful
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 6:59 pm

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Peter and Menlo Voter, let me understand where in the following cone of conduct, by associating with someone who is obviously racist (according to you), someone should lose their business and become a pariah:

1. Breaking into the capitol building/fighting with police.
2. Participating in the rally lawfully (but not #1).
3. Voting for Donald Trump in 2020 (but none of the above).
4. Voting for Donald Trump in 2016 (but none of the above).
5. Agreeing with Donald Trump on some substantive issues (but none of the above).

Since you've said participating in the rally, yet not breaking into any buildings or hurting anyone, is enough, because it shows sympathy with someone with obviously racist views, I assume to be logically consistent, you would agree that a higher number on this list than #2 represents your view, as any of these items shows sympathy with some of what Trump stands for. Which number is it?

The problem becomes, once you get above #2, you're talking about roughly half the country, so we're going to degenerate rapidly into a civil war. Don't take that as a threat. I didn't participate in the rally or do anything on this list except #5 (maybe that is enough?). I just don't think this type of dysfunction and demonization in our nation is sustainable.

Some Perspective, BLM and Antifa protests during the summer also had a subset of participants who committed bad acts. It was deemed possible to be aligned with the legitimate values of the movement, protest, and not be tainted by the bad acts of the other participants. I agreed with this view. I don't think it can only be applied to certain political ideologies while maintaining our Bill of Rights.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:05 pm

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"Peter and Menlo Voter, let me understand where in the following cone of conduct, by associating with someone who is obviously racist (according to you)"

This is a false premise - I never stated that she was a racist.

My charge is the she has consistently enabled Trump by her presence and financial support in spite of, in my opinion, clear evidence that Trump is endeavoring to overthrow a properly certified election in which he lost.


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Posted by Thoughtful
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:18 pm

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"My charge is the she has consistently enabled Trump by her presence and financial support in spite of, in my opinion, clear evidence that Trump is endeavoring to overthrow a properly certified election in which he lost."

It is definitely intellectually possible to protest the result of the election and feel it was an unfair and unjust result (*), without trying to overthrow it, just as it is similarly possible to protest the results of lawful court decisions and systems of laws (like qualified immunity) that gave no legal consequence to police officers who killed black people without being accused of trying to overthrow our legal/court system.

Both are completely acceptable First Amendment exercises and I support any American's right to do either without people "going after them" for their opinions.

(*) As far as I know, the protestors have specific charges of unfair and, in their view, illegal, practices in this election, such as changing signature and balloting laws without going through state legislatures, and whether or not you agree with that view, it is not the same as just saying "we don't like who won, so we're going to overthrow the election". There were protests in 2016 after Trump won the election – without being accused of election impropriety – and these were also completely acceptable protests, including the ones that took place during his inauguration and near the inauguration.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:22 pm

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Thoughtful - The evidence is clear that Trump was trying to overthrow the results of the election not just protesting the results or questioning the election procedures.


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Posted by Thoughtful
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on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:27 pm

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"Thoughtful - The evidence is clear that Trump was trying to overthrow the results of the election not just protesting the results or questioning the election procedures."

That's my point. Yet it's not Trump's business that is being threatened.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:36 pm

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We are discussing the role of someone who enabled Trump's behavior knowing full well what he was attempting to do - overturn the election.

There are consequences for enabling such horrendous actions.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:52 pm

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"That's my point. Yet it's not Trump's business that is being threatened."

The owner of the business supports/supported Trump who was actively trying to illegally overturn an election, not just flap his jaws about it. This was not some kind of secret. What Trump was trying to do was quite clear. Yet, the owner of this business supported Trump. Financially, on November 10th when it was clear what he was trying to do. She should have thought about the potential consequences before she provided said support.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:59 pm

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Menlo Park Voter:

We're not talking about someone simply expressing a "political opinion differing from ours". We're talking about someone supporting a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, insurrectionist. Sorry, that's far and away miles from simply having a different political viewpoint. It's support of someone that was actively trying to illegally overturn a lawful election and violate our Constitution.


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Posted by Menlo Park Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jan 9, 2021 at 10:19 pm

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@Menlo Voter: Your characterization of Trump is spot on. But do you *know* this woman supports *everything* Trump stands for? She showed up to a protest rally and left when it turned violent. Even the most ardent partisan does not support 100% of the Democratic Party platform. As a society, we need to learn to think for ourselves and not align 100% with one "team" or the other. This is not the Giants vs. the A's. For example, whose fault is it that violent protestors managed to storm one of our most sacred institutions and interrupt the democratic process of selecting the next president? The Capitol Police Chief? Perhaps, but at the end of the day, the leadership of the Senate (VP Mike Pence and Senate President Pro Tem Chuck Grassly) and the Speaker of the House (Nancy Pelosi) are where the "buck stops". Weeks ago Pelosi was raising the alarm about Trump interfering with the election count and the smooth transition of power, yet she didn't ensure that the electoral college was physically secure?


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Posted by Lou Moffett
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jan 9, 2021 at 11:21 pm

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I take the woman at her word that she had attended a rally in support of Trump and that she had no expectation of violence and was appalled by the invasion of our Capital. It is dangerous to assume that her support for Trump means that she is in favor of everything he has promoted. Such assumptions are dangerous because they lead to demonizing anyone who supports a politician other than the "correct" one. I am puzzled how anyone can support Trump, but over 70 million Americans did. Perhaps rather than boycotting her store, it might be more useful to understand what policies of Trump's she supports and have a discussion. If she believes that the election was stolen, then a discussion of evaluating sources of evidence and inferences drawn from them could ensue. As Americans, we need to understand rather than simply dismiss all the people who voted for Trump. If they cannot be heard and understood, we risk their resorting to more dramatic means of expressing their concerns, points of view, and proposed solutions to our many problems.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 10, 2021 at 8:15 am

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Menlo Park Voter:

it doesn't matter whether she supports everything Trump stands for. When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. You are judged by the company you keep.


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Posted by Loyal American
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 11:37 am

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Let’s assume she and others flew across the country to attend the rally blissfully unaware of all the websites promoting the rally with specific calls to violent action. The bottom line is she went to support overturning a free and fair election, effectively to overthrow the government. Yes, she has a First Amendment right to hold this view, though most would consider it disloyal to our responsibilities as citizens. And the rest of us certainly have the right not to support her anti-democracy views and the right not to patronize her store. I do hope she quarantines upon return, since she is shown mask-less while surrounded by others without masks (irresponsible to say the least), so her customers don’t get infected.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of another community
on Jan 10, 2021 at 10:20 pm

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Isn’t San Mateo County under a stay at home order with essential travel only? I’m concerned a community member gets on a plane to fly across country to a super spreader event, possibly bringing it back to customers and the community in general.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 11, 2021 at 7:30 am

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Concerned:

yes, we are under a stay at home order. Yes, there is supposed to be no non-essential travel. So, Suzi broke the law, put herself at risk, and may be putting others at risk if she isn't self quarantining right now.


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Posted by pogo
a resident of Woodside: other
on Jan 11, 2021 at 9:00 am

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This entire thread makes me incredibly sad.


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Posted by Alert
a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on Jan 11, 2021 at 10:59 am

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It would be useful if "Pogo" explained what exactly is "sad" about a thread which reflects a broad range of community opinions, many of which are expressed in well-considered and thoughtful detail.


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Jan 11, 2021 at 11:16 am

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I’m relieved that Suzi Tinsley of Sugar Shack is now being revealed to be an anti-masker. Her political beliefs are personal, but her choices and behavior about those beliefs are not when they impact the public.

It’s not lost on locals that Tinsley and the racist anti-masker wife of the ex-Las Lomitas Elementary School District board member have done some damage with the choices they’ve made. That damage shouldn’t have a lasting impact on us.


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Posted by Actions, meet consequences
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:18 pm

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We have no idea whether she participated in the storming of the Capitol or not; she did lie about her participation initially, saying she only attended the speech, until confronted by a photograph showing her a block from the Capitol. When someone lies about their participation, it does seem that they have qualms about how their behavior reflects on them. I support the rights of free speech, the right to assemble, the right to attend any rally or march or protest that you want. I also support the right to not patronize someone's business, and to publicize their participation in an event that I personally find abhorrent. If she was concerned about her business being avoided by people who find her politics and behavior disgusting, she should have considered that before going to this "event," and then decided it was worth the risk. Perhaps she did. Actions have consequences.


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Posted by Protesting in place
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:23 pm

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I know the Tinsley family and am not surprised they support this president. That is, of course, their right. This incident, plus the Las Lomitas brouhaha, underscore the strong undercurrent of racism among the most privileged members of our community. We can (and should) do more to address that directly.

However, the mask ban is a major issue. Suzi went to a superspreader event, mask-free, and is now presumably back in Menlo Park, with infection numbers soaring. She has the potential to infect or lead to the infection of hundreds of people and hospitalization of dozens. I hope she has the good sense to quarantine, but since she doesn't believe in Covid, I doubt it.

She may go out of business because of the backlash (though enough Menlo School/Sacred Heart families are on board with her mindset to keep her afloat) but I hope this will be a call to action for the rest of us, at least those of us who value a more diverse, inclusive community.


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Posted by Thoughtful
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:34 pm

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To "Protesting in place" – what does attending the rally have to do with racism, exactly? This is another (dangerous) logical fallacy since I think what you are getting at is because you believe many Trump supporters are racist or support racist causes, supporting Trump means you're a racist. This is not logically the same thing. As a practical matter, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas supported the rally (until it turned violent – according to her) and, as a white woman married to a black man, she's not racist, is she?

Please, calm down the rhetoric, labeling and name calling. There is way too much of this going around on all sides.


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Posted by E. Nale
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:35 pm

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Menlo Park Almanac Neighbors, please, consider your comments.

For those of you shaming Mrs. Tinsley for being present at a political protest that turned violent, how do you KNOW that Mrs. Tinsley was aware of potential violence at the DC protest before she attended ? I had heard on the radio about last week's rally and nothing about planned violence; I do not follow Facebook or Twitter, or alternative websites -- it is very likely that she also did not know there were ulterior motives potentially present. Why don't you kindly extend to her the benefit of the doubt ? She has a constitutional right to attend political rallies and protests. You may not agree with her viewpoint, but she has every right to express it non-violently. Unless there is evidence that she was participating in the violence, you must give her the benefit of the doubt.

Did you apply the very same stringent litmus test to all participants of the political and social protests that occurred this summer ? Did you disparage all attendees of any rally that turned violent ?

You have every right to disagree with Mrs. Tinsley's political viewpoints, but it is not constructive to paint every Trump supporter with a broad brush and equate her with the most violent fringe of last week's mob.

You have every right to not patronize Mrs. Tinsley's store, but think carefully of the precedent you are setting for our community before creating a big brouhaha and political boycott -- this is not neighborly or productive. You will be far more effective in persuading people to your political viewpoints if you engage in civil debate and discussion and refrain from character assassination and business boycotts.

**For the record, I completely condemn the violent protesters that overran our nation's Capitol Police and proceeded to deface and damage the Capitol Building. It was a terrible thing that should have never happened and I cannot imagine how traumatic it must have been to be inside the Capitol on Wednesday afternoon.

And yet, we must acknowledge the full right of citizens to peacefully raise questions and receive answers about perceived inconsistencies in the election returns. Greater transparency and clarity of question and answer may have helped prevent this unfortunate episode in our nation's history.

I applaud Vice President Pence and Congress for carrying on afterwards and certifying the election; the US has a process and timeline that must be followed, regardless of outstanding questions, for the orderly and peaceful transition of power.**


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Posted by David B
a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:43 pm

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Aside from the moral issue of whether we should boycott stores whose politics we disagree with.... it's clear that money spent at this store goes straight to conservative causes. Make your decision that way.

PS: Read "Caste" by Isabel Wilkerson for a persuasive dive into how racism is baked into our entire society... we swim in it like a fish swims in water. Here's the Reader's Digest version: Web Link


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:58 pm

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E. Nale your attempts to muddy the waters of this issue are noted. Boycotting her business isn’t setting a precedent because that precedent was set long before the term was even coined. Whenever consumers have a choice about where their money goes, they exercise that choice. Sometimes politics plays into those choices, sometimes not.


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:58 pm

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Trump supporters who traveled to DC and rally against democracy along side NEONAZIS, PROUD BOYS, KKK, White Supremacists are now crying that they’re being treated unfairly. The rally was billed as ‘stop the steal’ - and those in attendance showing support for denying that Joe Biden won a free a fair election can cry me a river.. At no time has this candy shop owner denounced Trump and the lies that incited the violent insurrection. There can be no healing until these traitors are held accountable for their actions. She may not have stormed the Capitol, but her presence at the Stop the Steal rally speaks volumes about her character.


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Jan 11, 2021 at 1:32 pm

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Editor, will there be an update to this story?


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Posted by Pot Meet Kettle
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 11, 2021 at 1:50 pm

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Talk about mob mentality. Even individuals posting here by stating that they abhor what happened last Wednesday are attacked for suggesting that perhaps some of the statements in this thread might be just a little bit over-the-top. Some of you sound like you would be pleased to see a business destroyed financially, if not physically, and the owner run out of town or sent to a re-education camp.

The irony is that some on one side take no issue with rioters burning government buildings and businesses (remember the Alameda County Superior Courthouse and the Oakland car dealership that went up in flames in June/July for example?) and then demanding other rioters be both harshly punished and 'cancelled' for participating in their preferred riots.

Both sides are wrong.

I am sure that the ensuing comments will enlighten us as to why one side is morally justified in their pious pursuit of purity, and the other side is, well, "them".


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of another community
on Jan 11, 2021 at 2:06 pm

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Pot, this is about local business owner and anti-masker Suzi Tinsley. It’s not about last summer or Alameda County. You might want to try to change the subject but some of us want to focus on Tinsley and Sugar Shack.


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Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jan 11, 2021 at 2:15 pm

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I am not sure what all the fuss is about. The people who went to Washington to peacefully protest were well within their rights to do so and to exercise their freedom of speech. The ones who were violent and committed crimes should be charged and tried for those crimes with appropriate punishment.

People who do not agree with what those people were protesting also have the right to not shop at stores owned by people who they disagree with and they also have the First Amendment rights to speak out against it.

Are there actually people here arguing that the conservatives deserve the right to speak about their belief that the vote was stolen and verbally accuse people of protecting "fraudulent activities" but people who disagree are not allowed to speak their views?

One last thing... The First Amendment prevents government from stopping people from expressing their opinions (with some exceptions). It does not protect them from the repercussions of expressing those opinions. This is a good example, based on what you say or do people may choose not to do business with you. Nothing illegal or even wrong about that, is there?


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Posted by Protesting in place
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 11, 2021 at 2:18 pm

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"The irony is that some on one side take no issue with rioters burning government buildings and businesses."

Really? I don't remember anyone endorsing violence, riots, or destruction. Fact: there are bad actors out there, and some of them used the distractions created by last summer's peaceful protests to destroy property or steal. For all we know, these criminals are devoted supporters of the current president.

Last summer's protests were designed to present a unified front against longstanding inequalities.

Last Wednesday's siege was a failed coup, an effort to destroy democracy and take over the country that advocated bloodshed and the deaths of key politicians.

See the difference?


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Posted by Brian Cutcliffe
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jan 11, 2021 at 4:16 pm

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bigotry
[ˈbiɡətrē]
NOUN
bigotry (noun) · bigotries (plural noun)
intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
"the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"
synonyms:
prejudice · bias · partiality · partisanship · sectarianism · discrimination · unfairness · injustice · intolerance · narrow-mindedness · fanaticism · dogmatism · racism · racialism · sexism · heterosexism · homophobia · chauvinism · anti-Semitism · jingoism · Jim Crowism
antonyms:
tolerance


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 11, 2021 at 4:58 pm

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WIKI:

A boycott is an act of nonviolent, voluntary and intentional abstention from using, buying, or dealing with a person, organization, or country as an expression of protest, usually for moral, social, political, or environmental reasons. The purpose of a boycott is to inflict some economic loss on the target, or to indicate a moral outrage, to try to compel the target to alter an objectionable behavior.


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 11, 2021 at 5:07 pm

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‘Appeasement got us where we are’

Web Link


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 11, 2021 at 5:18 pm

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My intention is not to vilify anyone but rather to encourage people who have supported Trump even after he called for overthrowing the 2020 election to realize that they are enablers and that they bear some responsibility for his recent actions and for the tragedy that followed. If there had been nobody at that rally then the assault on our Capital would not have occurred.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 11, 2021 at 7:40 pm

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Here is a perfect example of the depravity of the Republican Party enablers:

Santa Clara County Republican Party Central Committee Member Phil Reynolds wrote a series of incendiary posts Wednesday about the violent mob of Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to overturn the presidential election.

"The war has begun! Citizens take arms! FREEDOM SHALL PREVAIL!!! WE MUST DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION TO THE DEATH!" Reynolds wrote.

"Drum roll please: Civil war or No civil war?" he also posted Wednesday.


***

We can not stand silent as these enablers toss gasoline on the fire. They must be called out and shamed.


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Posted by Babe in the woods...?
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jan 11, 2021 at 9:42 pm

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NO. Don’t believe so
Suzanne "Suzy" Tinsley knew what she was doing when she draped herself in maga wear, trump flag tied around her back -
Flew beyond Californias 120 miles travel restriction in place on Jan 6th to Washington, DC
Participated in the mob gathering for trump because she wanted to see him one last time because he said he would be there - Of course he lied.
She didn't wear a mask - then returns to Menlo Park to be a super spreader in a Pandemic!!!
A Pandemic people!!!
She owns this - this is what she did - if there are consequences for her actions, so be it –
Learn from this Suzanne “Suzy” Tinsley, your actions actually have consequences -
She needs to be an adult about it - no more crying all day because everyone found out about her secret photo placing her there - as it was reported she was crying all day on Thursday - not sure why, maybe because her secret was revealed? Or that her shop and home were visited by news crews or that she may not have the same public image she once had?!?
Well fairly sure trump doesn't care- so no crying now Suzanne – you own this -
Now thanks to trumps call on his base, the individuals that trashed the Capitol, Yes, those domestic terrorists now state they will continue their terrorism threatening violence and destruction and possible casualties at ALL 50 State Capitols –
Additionally, threatening violence to the New Administration on and around Inauguration day-
Seems like Suzy won’t have to travel very far to join them again at our California State Capitol if they turn up there – (and hopefully they don’t turn up anywhere-)
If she chooses to do so.


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Posted by Philip Grant
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 11, 2021 at 9:50 pm

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I have known the Tinsleys for years mainly through soccer, as I coached their youngest daughter for several years. Their youngest still is very polite and friendly to me on the street when I see her downtown. Suzi personally packed goodie bags with Sugar Shack candy for the kids after games and they are a warm and loving family. I personally don't think we should throw people (and their businesses) under the bus for their political opinions. We need more local businesses downtown, not fewer. I do hear what people are saying and there is a line to be drawn but this seems to be channeling our disgust with the mob riot in DC and the worst attributes of the current president onto one local individual who was at the scene of the crime.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Jan 12, 2021 at 6:43 am

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"one local individual who was at the scene of the crime."

Being at this scene of this crime is not like being a passive observer but is as an enabler.


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 12, 2021 at 7:26 am

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The next insurrection/stop the steal/ ‘coup klux klan’ (credit to India Times) rallies already being planned at all 50 State Capitols. I image that the DC rally goers have learned their lesson.. and will be attending in disguise. A simple Face mask during the pandemic would suffice, no need to wear the white hoods in public. So the candy shop owner shared candy with the soccer team? Isn’t that special. It in now way mitigates the fact that she participated in a rally to overthrow our democracy.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 12, 2021 at 7:51 am

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"this is not neighborly or productive."

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

I'll take being unneighborly to shut down those that would support a fascist thank you.


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Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 12, 2021 at 8:05 am

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Phillip:

I'm sure Suzi is probably "nice" on a personal level. The problem is she supports, both politically and financially, a FASCIST. She's free to support him. She's free to worship him. She's even free to go to a rally in support of overthrowing a lawful election. But, support of those things can have consequences and Suzi is finding that out. Most of the people of this area don't support any of the things that Suzi supports. And we are not going to give money to her so she can give it to causes we find abhorrent. It's not about trying to put her out of business, although that could be an outcome, it's about exercising our choice with our feet. Boycotting someone or something has been around for a very long time.


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 12, 2021 at 8:11 am

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beware of fascists sugar coating their image. When I see those who were draping themselves in Trump flags denouncing the lies that fueled the insurrection (and continue to fuel coup attempts), when I see an apology for going maskless and ignoring pandemic protocol to keep communities safe, then perhaps I will believe her #oniontears and we get start forgiving. truth and reconciliation doesn’t arrive overnight and people need to be held accountable for their behavior and own up to the role they played in the violence.


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 12, 2021 at 8:11 am

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‘ I’m sorry I got caught’ doesn’t cut it.


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Posted by Bobnoir
a resident of Woodside: Skywood/Skylonda
on Jan 12, 2021 at 8:35 am

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Any form of segregation is wrong. I can disagree with your views, but I can still respect the other 99.9% of you as a fellow human being.


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Posted by Nanc
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Jan 12, 2021 at 8:36 am

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Dan Rather:
The hypocrisy of the Trump thuggery can be epitomized by a seditious rioter beating a police officer at the Capitol with an American flag. It was never about the flag, or “blue lives matter.” These were mere props in a movement fueled by power, injustice, and racism.


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