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Girl Scouts and Woodside still at odds over busing hundreds of children to summer camp at Huddart Park

Original post made on Jun 26, 2023

The Girl Scouts still don't have a permit from Woodside to drive buses into Huddart Park, so hundreds of children will have to walk the last half-mile into the county park to get to Peninsula Day Camp.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, June 26, 2023, 11:47 AM

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Posted by Marguerite Kaufman
a resident of Woodside: Kings Mountain/Skyline
on Jun 26, 2023 at 12:45 pm

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I fail to understand why the Girl Scouts would put the girls headed to camp in danger and also endanger the local community. There seems to be a lack of understanding as to the reason behind the restriction. As a user of Kings Mountain Road (because HWY 84 is closed) I know the dangers. I believe that there have been accidents with buses coming up and down Kings Mountain Road and I certainly am aware of the many times that the road has been closed due to accidents. A worst case scenario of a rapidly spreading fire on Kings Mountain along with a bus blocking the road due to an accident or a malfunction could leave many dead. Kings Mountain is an evacuation route in the event of fire or other disaster. What is so hard to understand. The Girl Scouts should have some desire to protect and serve, not endanger themselves and/or a whole community. Where is their sense of community that they are putting their needs above the needs of thousands of residents. I suggest that Angela Swartz and some of the Girl scout executive travel Kings Mountain Road to see what they are asking. A half dozen trips up and down at the times the buses would be coming and going should give them a better idea of the problem

Posted by Beth Darnall
a resident of Woodside: Mountain Home Road
on Jun 26, 2023 at 12:48 pm

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As a former Girl Scout, I want to support the troops. As a mountain resident, I attest to the danger of the windy, steep road which is currently compromised further due to storm damage with traffic down to one lane in places. A possible compromise might be to have police escorts (with sirens) lead each large bus up Huddart Park. Still, the road is not safe for large busses and alternatives that emphasize safety (vs. convenience) should be explored so as to not expose the Girl Scouts, cyclists, or other motorists to undue risk.

Posted by pvrez
a resident of Portola Valley: Central Portola Valley
on Jun 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm

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maybe all those bus trips are why the road failed - it certainly didn't help

Posted by WP
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 26, 2023 at 2:48 pm

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The town of Woodside certainly seems determined to make itself look bad. First all the nonsense about climbing the entire town was endangered mountain lion habitat, in order to avoid state housing laws, now picking on poor girl scouts (!) who just want to transport some kids safely to a beautiful park to spend some time outdoors in nature. The article noted that the busses the girl scouts proposed using this year are smaller than in the past, my suggestion is the town work with the scouts and use whatever kind of sort is necessary to get the busses to the park. Seriously, making the girls walk the last half mile along that road? I hope the town staff gets direction to accommodate the needs to the girl scouts, this situation is unsafe for the girls and looks terrible for the town.

Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jun 26, 2023 at 3:31 pm

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Sounds like the town did say busses shorter than 38 feet would be acceptable but the scouts did not like that answer and want to start a petition to overturn the towns decision. They seem to feel that busses are not the problem, however the comments above attest to the fact they are an issue. I would guess that anyone who drives Kings Mountain Road has run into busses taking up both lanes on the turns, I know I have. I think if the Girl Scouts are not happy with the new rules they look else where for a better location next year. In the meantime the town has said it is willing to work with them this summer so as to not impact their program. Aren't Girl Scouts taught to overcome problems and find solutions? Maybe the leadership needs to spend some time doing that...

Posted by JamesH
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Jun 28, 2023 at 8:48 am

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The article quotes the camp directors as claiming that there have never been incidents with the buses in 20+ years. Meanwhile an NBC Bay Area interview came out showing VIDEO of just such an incident. It's titled, "Is there a safe solution to Woodside road hazard?"; you'll find it if you Google search. I encourage all to view it before commenting. The scout leaders love to blame cyclists, cars - anyone other than the buses crossing the centerline without warning. This video shows exactly what is happening. Everyone is driving/riding in a totally reasonable manner. The bus appears across the centerline out of nowhere, forcing the car off the road. The cyclist was injured, but even if it were just the car being forced into a ditch, that would be enough on its own! In what world does anyone view this video and honestly believe that these buses aren't a problem??!

Posted by pogo
a resident of Woodside: other
on Jun 28, 2023 at 10:13 am

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For those who claim (a) buses do not cross the double-yellow center line, (b) buses have never caused an accident, and (c) this isn't a problem, there is a video showing this is simply UNTRUE. It could not be any clearer!

This incident, which was captured on video, happened just 10 days ago and sent the bicycle rider - who was riding safely and under the speed limit - to the hospital.

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