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Atherton: Budget reflecting layoffs approved, but outsourcing plan still not firm

Original post made on Jun 16, 2011

An "interim bridge budget" that reflects the layoff of 13 town staff members was passed by Atherton's City Council last night (June 15), but the question of whether the pink-slipped employees will actually lose their jobs has yet to be resolved.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, June 16, 2011, 11:56 AM

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Posted by peter carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jun 16, 2011 at 1:22 pm

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From: Peter Carpenter
Date: June 15, 2011 8:06:04 PM PDT
To: Atherton Town Council
Subject: The challenges of a survey

Dear Council,
It was suggested tonight that the Town conduct a survey of its citizens regarding appropriate responses to the current fiscal crisis.

First, we have a representative system of Town government and the five of you have been elected to represent us. We the citizens have already spoken in electing you and in placing our trust in your judgement.

Second, surveys done properly are expensive and take time - we have neither the luxury of time nor a surfeit of funds.

Third, surveys are very difficult to do well:
- A key issues would be the exact wording of the questions and the price tag to put on each item that people are being asked to say yes or no to. Everybody will want anything that is free.
- Another issue will be to get a statistically valid response rate in a Town that has primarily unlisted phones, lots of locked gates and with a propensity to discard unsolicited snail and email.
- Previous surveys were compromised by low sample sizes and a biased response rate by advocates.
- Similarly, past elections were biased by very aggressive campaigns to get out the Yes vote and no organized opposition.
- Finally, there will be the difficult problem of more people saying in an anonymous survey that they would be willing to pay X than people who would actual pay X or vote for a corresponding parcel tax.

I recommend that you move forward with your decision making via properly agendized public meetings with full opportunity for public comments and that you continue to exercise the individual judgements that you were elected to make.


Peter Carpenter

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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jun 16, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Here, Here Mr. Carpenter. Survey's typically are a unwise use of taxpayer's money and time, as you have stated. Some people may moan and groan, but they are usually the naysayers about everything. Thank you for your commentary and observation. Time to move forward !

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Posted by Faxon Dean
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jun 16, 2011 at 9:04 pm


On a recent topic involving the parcel tax, you assert that the number of residents who vote doesn’t amount to a mandate to retain the Police Department. Despite the parcel tax being marketed as “Safety First”, you observe that the vote wasn’t about outsourcing.

Yet, within 72 hours, you claim that the will of the people is represented by the vote and that the residents should NOT have the opportunity to participate in a survey.

The flaw in your switch lies in the numbers, specifically the vote counts which got these current Council Members into office:

2,332 Widmer
2,046 Carlson
1,856 McKeithen
1,774 Lewis
1,714 Dobbie

The parcel tax passed with a 2/3’d majority with only 1,426 votes. If we accept your premise that the parcel tax vote wasn’t representative, then the Council members aren’t representative either (in fact their percentages were on average in the twenties).

There are over 7,000 residents of which 5,900 are registered to vote. None of these tallies appear to be a mandate for action.

A survey of resident preferences, including their attitudes on outsourcing the Police Department, is a welcome development. I applaud the Council for recognizing the limits of their mandate and for pursuing this option.

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Posted by peter carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jun 16, 2011 at 9:10 pm

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Read my comments carefully - I properly challenged the assertion that 76% of all Athertonians supported the police department which is simply a factually incorrect statement. 70% of all Atherton residents did not vote so there is no way that the parcel tax vote could have reflected the view of 76% of the residents.

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Posted by The law won
a resident of another community
on Jun 17, 2011 at 6:11 pm

What happened to the arrests John Johns was supposed to make?

Looks like he put his tail between his legs and ran away, just like the day he was walked out the door.

Just a lot of boastful talk and no action from this guy. He'd better leave the jobs that require real men to the Police Officers.

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