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Six people arrested for purchasing alcohol for minors in Menlo Park

Original post made on Mar 15, 2022

Six people were arrested on Saturday, March 12, for purchasing alcohol for minors, according to the Menlo Park Police Department.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, March 14, 2022, 4:03 PM


Posted by Frozen
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 15, 2022 at 2:11 pm

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Really? Law enforcement has nothing better to do than lure otherwise innocent people into committing crimes?

I agree that underage drinking is a problem and can lead to tragedy, but if they truly wanted to make a dent, they would conduct raids on college campuses, notably frat houses. But then they would risk embarrassing the children of rich and influential people, so they instead go after the low-hanging fruit and congratulate themselves for addressing the issue, even though they didn't.

Posted by Joseph E. Davis
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 15, 2022 at 2:46 pm

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Sounds like entrapment to me.

Posted by YIMBY
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 15, 2022 at 3:51 pm

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entrapment. this is a waste of taxpayer money. if they think shoulder tapping is how most kids are getting their alcohol or that this will in any way be a deterrent, law enforcement is very confused.

also, not sure why the other commenter brought fraternity parties into the discussion. those kids are legally adults and should be able to make their own choices. for the under 18 crowd, yep, this is an issue worth working on.

Posted by Frozen
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 15, 2022 at 7:14 pm

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Ages 18-21 have inconsistent rules: though 18-year-olds are technically no longer minors, they could not vote until 1971; the legal drinking age across the US was raised to 21 in 1984, and as of 2019, you have to be 21 to buy cigarettes (and weed).

The California courts ruled in 1994 that this kind of police activity is legal and does not fall within the definition of entrapment.

Of greater note may be the fact that most of the people charged are described in the police log as "Hispanic male." But that's a whole different discussion.

Posted by YIMBY
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 16, 2022 at 11:49 am

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Yep, totally get and appreciate your points. Don't want to steer too much off topic, but if you can go to war and vote, you should be able to make your own choices about alcohol. Related, it was the Vietnam War that spurred the passage of the 26th Amendment. "Sending me to die in the jungles of Vietnam, Mr. Senator, then you better damn well give me the right to vote for/against you!"

The move to 21 in 1984 is actually quite interesting too. Arguably a massive overreach by the federal govt. No reason this issue shouldn't be decided at the state level, but the federal gov't got around it by mandating the change to 21 as a requirement to receive federal highway funding...

The California courts ruling is lame. I'd like to see some case law challenge this. Using minors as bait to compel someone else to commit a crime crosses a moral and ethical line, in my opinion.

And, yes, the fact that this is targeting POC more than anyone else is pretty crappy.

Posted by pogo
a resident of Woodside: other
on Mar 17, 2022 at 7:03 am

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With all of the home robberies, I wish police would focus on catching those who are breaking into our homes instead.

Posted by Ronen
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Mar 17, 2022 at 6:36 pm

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Why would police actively encourage people to break the law and then arrest them for it?

This does nothing but create harm. The job of the police is to find law breakers, not to create them. Shame on the police.

Posted by gina
a resident of Menlo Park: Stanford Weekend Acres
on Mar 18, 2022 at 4:36 pm

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Why do these crackdowns surprise me. Though the places where these people got busted is not listed long time Menlo Park Residents know the addresses well as there are not many places here to buy booze. I lost count how many times menlo park keeps getting busted as its the same stores every single time.

Posted by AMRW
a resident of another community
on Mar 20, 2022 at 9:41 pm

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While I fully understand it's illegal to purchase alcohol for minors, the article states, "The minor indicates in some way that he or she is underage and can't buy alcohol. If the adult agrees to purchase it for the minor, agents arrest and cite the individual." Am I missing something? No alcohol is purchased, is it? Is it still a crime to stay "sure, I'll buy you alcohol", even if no alcohol is purchased?

Posted by Frozen
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Mar 22, 2022 at 1:15 pm

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"The minor indicates in some way..."

What does "some way" mean? What is actually said?

"Hi, I'm not going to be 21 for a month and I'm legally prohibited from buying beer. Could you get one for me?"

Or is it more like

"I can't go inside the store -- here's a $20 -- can you buy a beer for me and keep the change?"