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California Proposition 1A, the $9.95-billion bond measure to provide the first wave of funding to run high-speed, all-electric trains between San Francisco and Los Angeles, passed Tuesday. The latest statewide count shows it was approved by 52 percent of the voters.

Under the proposed plan, trains would shoot up the Caltrain corridor to San Francisco — right through Menlo Park and Atherton. Some residents are concerned about the impact of the project, which would require the state to dig a trench or build a berm through the heart of Menlo Park and Atherton to accommodate grade separations.

Both cities had passed resolutions against the measure, and both have joined a lawsuit to oppose it on environmental grounds.

Atherton Councilwoman Kathy McKeithen, who just won re-election to a third term, said that it’s in Atherton’s best interests to continue with the lawsuit. “It means they have to listen to us,” she said.

Menlo Park Councilman Heyward Robinson said that Menlo Park would continue with the suit, as well. But he also said that the city would work with the state if and when the project gets under way.

Local opponents of the proposition didn’t get any help from San Mateo County voters: some 61 percent of them supported the measure, according to the county’s election Web site.

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  1. Thank goodness backwards councils such as Menlo Park can’t block real progress here. HSR is going to be a blessing. Short-term thinkers were defeated on this one.

  2. The Almanac might also want to confirm the results for the Menlo Park 1A vote. My count (using the San Mateo County website numbers for precincts 4401 – 4430) gives: Yes 6049 No 4424. This means Menlo Park voters approve the measure by over 1500 votes, or roughly a percentage of 58% to 42%. Since a majority of Menlo Park voters support High Speed Rail, and the majority of the state of California supports it, the city council should just drop the suite. It is a waste of effort and does not even reflect the desires of the majority of the city.

  3. All we can do is Sue now. Cities in Santa Clara county will join you. Every small town in Santa Clara county will be destroyed, including all the high end restaurants, the quiet high end office buildings and expensive residential built almost on the tracks. I wonder how San Mateo Bay Meadows developers are feeling now with their $2 million plus condos sitting on these tracks? The fact that Rod Diridon thinks he can destroy the entire peninsula with this boondoggle POS is truly amazing.

  4. Roxie, the menlo park RESIDENTS including many students likely support HSR, but not the menlo park property owners and business owners. You know, the people paying the bills, they don’t support this, and neither does any business community in any small town on the Peninsula. Rod Diridon is trying to ram this through to please the San Jose Chamber of Commerce and that is all. I am in favor of HSR, but not barrelling through my back yard when it doesn’t even stop in my town. No EU trains are built on top of bedroom and small business communities, this is ridiculous.

  5. Sue Sue Sue,

    A citizen is a citizen. You know we did away with poll taxes in this country years ago, and I thought the attitude that went with them as well. Just because someone rents instead of owns property doesn’t make them less valuable or worthy of a vote. Besides, I doubt that your “students” could account for a 15% margin of victory. I own my home and voted for High Speed Rail.

    By the way, I don’t think other parties can join the lawsuit that was filed at this point. It was filed against the EIR, and there are deadlines for when a suite can be filed (as well as who can file one) against the EIRs.

  6. Emu is right (1st comment). I lived near the Shinkansen “Bullet Train” tracks in Tokyo, and the trains are smooth, super quiet, and sleek. I’ll take HSR as a neighbor any day.

  7. As for the hyperbolic hand-wringing about HSR destroying communities, have a look around the rest of the world where HSR runs into and through towns and cities. You will note they seem remarkably un-destroyed. Why should HSR be any worse here? Methinks people don’t get out and about enough in the world. Visit and ride HSR in Europe. You’ll feel much better about what we’re in line to get here too … finally!

  8. Try acting like your not being dragged into the street and beat!!!for GODS sake its already there its not new!!! If you try and nimby sues ect ect it will just make your towns despied by the rest of the state and your own county..remember it passed by 62% there

  9. Comments by “Emu” and “welcomes quiet rail” in this thread confirm what I most feared about Proposition 1A: the average supporter-on-the-street didn’t know a damned thing about this initiative, other than that it involved sleek, shiny trains and was a “blessing” from above. Never mind the idiot short-term thinkers like myself who fret over inane things like, oh, massive state budget shortfalls with no resolution in sight (but please do put the first $10B 1A installment on the state credit card — paying the interest on that debt and more to follow will come, directly or indirectly, at the expense of our over-funded schools or what have you). Honestly, our credit card debt mentality must have helped sweep this initiative along, though one would think the recent meltdown in the financial and lending sectors would have awoken a few more of us to the dangers of reckless borrowing. Clearly not.

    It’s too bad more citizens didn’t dig a little deeper on 1A; that a wider audience didn’t see testimony like that in the following three YouTube videos, which highlight just a few of the gross problems with the ~8-year-old business plan put forward by the HSR Authority:

    Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeDlfIHbKxY
    Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTLLEwGuahc
    Video 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL9pt_Y-kRU

    And, Roxie, you live nowhere near the railroad tracks, so other than your willing financial contribution to this boondoggle what are you sacrificing when HSR comes to town? But we both know the answer to that question….

    Gern

  10. To Sue Sue Sue,

    Thank goodness that the majority of the state doesn’t think like you. High speed rail may just be the best thing that’s happening to the Peninsula. Did you ever notice that Caltrain runs right through the heart of pretty much every major downtown between San Francisco and San Jose? Do you think that happened by accident?

    No, it happened because trains and train stations spur development and make cities and their downtowns for livable, viable and sustainable. Of course, high speed is going to stop in every one of those stops, is it? So my argument is BS, right?

    It’s not, because high speed will transform Caltrain. Within the decade, it will help make Caltrain into a sleek, fast and energy-efficient train system that does actually stop in all our downtowns. And there’s room to accommodate both Caltrain and high-speed rail.

    This is a tremendous thing that just happened, and I hope you realize just how many benefits this will bring in the coming decades.

  11. Menlo Park approved 1A. In fact many of the precincts in Menlo Park that sit next to the Caltrain tracks voted yes. San Mateo County approved 1A. Continuing these lawsuits, at least in the short-term, is going against the wishes of your community AND your county.

  12. “The fact that Rod Diridon thinks he can destroy the entire peninsula with this boondoggle POS is truly amazing.”

    I understand your frustration, and I know I’ve said some less than conciliatory things in the past just as the opposition has, but it’s time to come together to work on this project and make it the best it can be. I’m for mitigating impacts to the community, but the peninsula route is the route that has been chosen.

  13. Almanac: I was just quoting what Germs said

    Germs, the only thing you know is what affects your bottom line. You don’t care about anyone else. You only care about your very very very short-term time line.

  14. Are you seriously calling him Germs? That is just not necessary. Some people literally have their entire life residences in the line of fire here. How can you lack compassion for that?

    Spokker and I did exchange our pleasantries and I now fully agree with him/her that it is time to move on. I think the odds are still greatly against a successful outcome in this economy and with the current HSR leadership who have proven without a doubt that they cannot plan this out without lots of leadership from outside.

    But voters have spoken.

    Lawsuits are settled in these matters regularly so no one should get all cramped up over this.

  15. The High Speed Rail project’s budget is severely underestimated, and depends on funds from unlikely sources. With a TRILLION dollar National Debt and a state financial crisis that has led to funding cuts for almost everything, federal and state funding appears remote. Why should California’s taxpayers be assumed to be willing, or even able, to foot the bill? A prior state transportation bond issue still has uncommitted funds, so why burden Californians now?

    Much of the right of way hasn’t been secured, and the cost has been underestimated. Union Pacific, which owns the ROW and uses it for freight, said no to sharing the line, for safety reasons. If eminent domain is used, costs will go up from inflation, as well true costs of fair market value. And there is no electrical capacity for this train.

    Ridership has been overestimated, which will endanger government subsidies, based on minimum standards of ridership. Their model assumes that all intra-California air travel would transfer to the train. But our air travel is very competitive. Building to San Diego and Sacramento is supposed to come from profits from the main line, but CalTrain has never turned a profit anywhere. Why would anyone invest in something with a 38% farebox loss?

    This train is being sold as a faster alternative to air travel. But if you add TSA security screening the time advantage disappears.

    The California High Speed Rail Authority has spent sixty MILLION dollars on marketing this Bond Issue. Is that legal–an illegal political donation of taxpayer funds?

  16. Over the coming weeks and months we’re going to find out just how realistic this project is. I’m glad that the Authority finally has the resources to find out just that.

    “Their model assumes that all intra-California air travel would transfer to the train.”

    No it doesn’t. The model assumes ~30% of intercity air trips will be diverted to HSR. It’s on the HSR Authority’s web site.

    “Building to San Diego and Sacramento is supposed to come from profits from the main line, but CalTrain has never turned a profit anywhere. Why would anyone invest in something with a 38% farebox loss?”

    Caltrain isn’t high speed rail.

    “But if you add TSA security screening the time advantage disappears.”

    I don’t want to see TSA security screening on high speed rail. If I see any more security theater than random bag checks, I will boycott the train myself.

  17. Spokker wrote:

    “No it doesn’t. The model assumes ~30% of intercity air trips will be diverted to HSR. It’s on the HSR Authority’s web site.”

    Have you watched the short videos I posted earlier in this thread? Of particular interest are the HSR ridership intensity comparisons between the proposed California project, Japan, and Europe. Do you honestly believe the HSR Authority ridership projections are based on anything more substantive than fantasy?

    “Caltrain isn’t high speed rail.”

    And California HSR has even a *remote* chance of being more profitable than CalTrain?! When? I appreciate your point of view on the topic, Spokker, but please let me know how or why you’re comfortable with this project given the current disaster that is the California state budget. I’m actually a big fan of HSR systems (and trains in general) and wish to see California HSR succeed at some point in my lifetime, but we as a State get one shot to do this right, and costly mistakes could set HSR back decades in this country. As the videos make clear (IMO, at least), the HSR Authority has simply failed to put forward an adequate business plan for this project (the plan they did put forward is, what, eight years old?). I’d sooner spend another 10 or 20 million dollars finalizing a study (albeit under someone else’s purview) than commit untold billions to a fundamentally flawed proposal. It’s your money, too, if you reside in California — your standards should be just as high.

    Gern

  18. Spokker is a pimp for this $%^& train. He posts on every blog in defense of this boondoggle, it appears that is his job, or maybe he is Rod Diridon . Sounds like he is from the LA area and is unaware of the quality of real estate that Diridon and pals decided to PLOW THROUGH with this initiative.

  19. Spokker is a 24-year-old student at one of the LA-area Cal States. It’s not clear whether or not he’s on the HSR payroll, but he posts on every HSR thread. He loathes “rich white” people and considers HSR our punishment for living in an affluent area.

    That’s a pretty expensive punishment! And everyone else has to pay for it too.

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